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Blogger ted said...

The notion of positive psychology will also make us more negative about our negative thoughts (which can only be suppressed but not eliminated). This is why the Christian understanding that we are all sinners is so important: It allows us to find comfort in grace instead of the relentless pursuit to fix ourselves.

27 April 2015 at 12:45

Blogger Nathaniel said...

This sounds sort of like those "get quick rich" frauds that suggest positivity is the solution to life's woes, including monetary. It has built-in recursive defense, because failure or disagreement with it always means you're just not being positive enough.

28 April 2015 at 15:40

Anonymous ajb said...

I watched Seligman's talk. The picture he uses associated with the highest kind of happiness ('meaning') is Mother Theresa!

PS is testing in a more rigorous manner various things that (as you say) have been known for some time. It is broadly compatible with Christianity, and indeed reinforces various aspects of it within a scientific context.

Of course, it's not the whole answer. But, it's much better than psychology based on Freudian psychoanalysis, say (which Seligman briefly mentions in order to ridicule in the talk).

I think that PS can point towards various important aspects of Christian practice.

I have a brief review of Shawn Achor's recent PS book here

http://makingsenseofchristianity.com/2015/04/24/beyond-happiness/

28 April 2015 at 19:09

Blogger David Balfour said...

Watching this video it reminds me of the modern trend in the Michelin star culinary world of having a 'de-constructed' meal: instead of an apple crumble you can have a spiced stewed apple puree reduction with a side of organic oat crumble biscuits and a separate cube of freeze-dried free-range low-fat Jersey cream (perhaps on another plate and as a second desert with the sound of frolicking farm animals played on a tape for verisimilitude and a sprig of mint made to look like the grass in a fair trade farm)...and by the end of the meal you still haven't had an apple crumble! All the ingredients are there somewhere but the healthy appetite is bound to be left wanting for the genuine article. 'Meaning, engagement, pleasure' are surely all to be found in religious life without the need for elaborate deconstruction? Crucially, when they tell you that your de-constructed apple crumble is essentially zero calories and will make you a better person and more refined for eating it?! It's a wonder the beguilement is not immediately spotted a such (now that *is* 'wishful thinking' in action) by the audience at this magicians show, Ted, I believe his name is. The essential honesty of an apple crumble comes from the fact that it is obvious that if you try and eat one every day you will become a glutton and there is no such thing as a free lunch. Similarly, whilst there are pleasures to be had in life, religion reminds us that no matter much we may wish to avoid it pain, trials and difficulties are essential for a meaningful and engaged life, pleasures will come and go and we cannot expect to be free of negative emotions in mortal life unless we become something not human.

30 April 2015 at 15:15