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** in order to have more inclusive, gen2-3-4 friendly indieweb descriptions, the idea to reorganize the principles had come up, starting from most gen4 oriented downwards to gen1 oriented.
** in order to have more inclusive, gen2-3-4 friendly indieweb descriptions, the idea to reorganize the principles had come up, starting from most gen4 oriented downwards to gen1 oriented.
*** Start more modest, just rephrasing to be inclusive of gen2. Then get gen2 folks to help write a gen3 friendly version. It is highly unlikely that gen1 folks will be able to write effectively for gen3+ (too different a perspective).
*** Start more modest, just rephrasing to be inclusive of gen2. Then get gen2 folks to help write a gen3 friendly version. It is highly unlikely that gen1 folks will be able to write effectively for gen3+ (too different a perspective).


=== 2017 Next Time ===
=== 2017 Next Time ===

Revision as of 16:43, 19 April 2018


The Leaders Summit is a half-day of activities and sessions before IndieWeb Summit 2018, for everyone who has co-organized an IndieWebCamp in the past two years or at least two Homebrew Website Club meetups with at least one meetup photo.

Who

Similar to 2017/Leaders, the Leaders Summit sessions are open to everyone who has co-organized an IndieWebCamp from 2015-2018, planning an IndieWebCamp later this year, or co-organized at least two Homebrew Website Club meetups during those years, and posted at least one meetup photo. If you’re not sure, ask an organizer.

RSVP

Please add yourself below if you will be participating in the Leaders Summit (alphabetical by full name)

Remote Participation

If you can't make it in person but you're available to participate remotely, please add yourself below. Please note that we'll likely make use of Mozilla's remote conference setup, which requires the Vidyo Desktop Client. The link to join the live chat will be at https://2018.indieweb.org/vidyo

  • ...

Regrets

Sorry to miss you, let us know if you can't make it and we'll try to reach out with specifics that may apply to your city.

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When

KURE Promise.
Good enough for breakfast, good enough for IndieWeb!
  • Monday June 25, 9am Pacific Time
    • 2018-06-25 09:00 - 13:30 PDT (UTC-7)
    • 2018-06-25 16:00 - 20:30 UTC
    • 2018-06-25 18:00 - 22:30 CEST (UTC+2)

Schedule

Monday 2018-06-25:

  • 08:15 Leaders breakfast at Kure Juice Bar
  • 09:00 Leaders Summit (LS) start & intros
  • 09:30 Leaders Summit Sessions
  • 13:00 Leaders Summit Wrap-up & Next Steps
  • 13:30 Leaders Summit closes and
  • 13:37 lunch outside and free time
    • ...

Other Leaders related activities (just FYI, unless you want to help)

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What

  • Tantek Çelik
    • What did we think we did right / better / worse compared to last year?
    • What did we leave open / unresolved from 2017/Leaders?
    • What new community challenges have we encountered since?
    • What are the most important things we can do to improve the community in the coming uyear?
    • Which of those are the easiest / most scalable?
  • Remaining/ongoing tasks from 2017/Leaders#Task_List
    • Home page
      • Move events content from home page to events.indieweb.org or for the time being, /events
      • Make the content appropriate for the next generation of people that we want to attract
      • Make sure home page is still personable, has photos, shows community
  • ...

Where

Need:

  • Place for: informal breakfast and/or lunch depending on "when" timing
  • Meeting room with power, wifi, projector for disucssions

Photos

The Leaders on call (not all pictured)

Out for lunch

Notes

Sessions

If you will be participating in the Day 0 Leaders Summit, please add your session ideas here with name, hashtag, and session idea name. Please add nested list-items with "+1 yourname" for sessions you want to participate in!

See Last Year's Sessions or 2016 Sessions for ideas.

New ideas

  • IndieWeb principles split and reorg
    • in order to have more inclusive, gen2-3-4 friendly indieweb descriptions, the idea to reorganize the principles had come up, starting from most gen4 oriented downwards to gen1 oriented.
      • Start more modest, just rephrasing to be inclusive of gen2. Then get gen2 folks to help write a gen3 friendly version. It is highly unlikely that gen1 folks will be able to write effectively for gen3+ (too different a perspective).
  • Re-evaluate sponsorship policy
    • Currently we have a bunch of links in the footer from hosts from several years ago. Might want to consider a more formal/strict policy of when those fall off the page and are only shown on the specific event page.
    • Aaron Parecki

2017 Next Time

From: 2017/Leaders#Task_List

  • Discussion channels
    • add bridged -meta
    • keep wiki edits in -dev
    • add bridged -wordpress
    • update #indiechat topic to direct people to #indieweb-chat
  • Logos
    • consensus they're a good idea
    • need to be well-designed, consistent
    • used in footers of websites, github, icons, stickers
  • Community Repos
    • new criteria for moving in (and possibly moving out) repos to (and from) the indieweb org repo on GitHub
    • have adaptable thresholds for projects that might need the extra nudge (and that do not allow much plurality anyway) like WP plugins
    • aaronpk will look at his repos and possibly move things out. Put out a call to others to look at their repos to?
  • organize next iterations on Nov 3 (before IWC Berlin)

Interested

  • ... add yourself if you're interested in a session about this

Discussion Channels

Aaron Parecki Last year we decided to formalize expanding the set of #indieweb discussion channels. Let's evaluate how this has been working and whether we should add more or not, as well as consider which channels the automated content belong in.

Interested

  • Aaron Parecki
  • ... add yourself if you're interested in a session about this

Existing channels summary

  • #indieweb - general user-centric discussion bridged with Slack #???
  • #indieweb-dev - developer specific discussion, implementation/protocols/formats/plumbing focused things bridged with Slack #dev
    • Wiki edits also go here
  • #indieweb-wordpress - WordPress-specific both user-support, and IndieWeb Pluging / Core development related
  • #indieweb-meta - discussion about the channels, the community, etc
  • #indiechat - existing informal not deliberately logged channel
  • #indieweb-chat - informal channel bridged with Slack #chat

Other Freenode channels logged by Loqi because they're symbiotic with the #indieweb community:

  • #microformats
  • #bridgy
  • #knownchat

which channel for wiki edits

  • The wiki edits can be kind of noisy especially when there is a conversation happening. Would it make sense to have a special channel for wiki edits? Maybe move everything to #indieweb-meta?

HWC Organizing

HWC is a specific events organizing use-case that's worth discussing / solving before the global events discussion. How has this been working since last year?

Proposer:

Interested:

Problems we should solve:

  • Late to announce cities
  • Late to cancel cities
  • Late to post indie events
  • Late to post silo events (FB, Meetup)


Events Organizing

Let's discuss how to improve how we organize IndieWeb related events, including in particular a/the website for events.

Interested

  • ... add yourself if you're interested in a session about this

New Events Website?

Incremental Improvements?

Some events seem to avoid the wiki

Site Refresh

In 2016 we discussed a major site-update and completed at least part of it for the start of the main IndieWebSummit! Followed up with a larger update on 2016-07-04.

Shall we do another site refresh? Or at least parts thereof?

Interested

  • ... add yourself if you're interested in a session about this

Home page

  • Consider what do other community / standards sites provide on their home page, and do we see things there that resonate or otherwise indicate areas we could improve our own home page? (and then list them below this site list) E.g.:
  • mission statement Do we need one? (see above examples) Do we already have one? (if so, mission statement should explicitly state it and expand upon it)
  • short intro video nearly every other such "modern" community or project has a short video intro embedded directly on their home page. we could use that, but we may want something a bit more properly edited / finessed than just a talk recording.
  • ... more suggested changes to the homepage based on comparative analysis with other sites

About

  • Similar to home page but perhaps expands upon the community identity etc.? E.g. see:

Events

  • Already covered by a separate session just for this.

People

  • Currently new folks in the community are presented with a bunch of different places to "add themselves" and this can either be tiresome, or a good introduction to various technologies, or maybe some of both? (accidental design). How can we make this deliberate one way or another? E.g. focus on simplicity, usability, or explicit "exercises" to help teach wiki editing or whatever else helps people contribute to the community more effectively. Current places / things for people in rough order that they're asked to create/edit them on IRC:
    1. irc-people
    2. Their User: page
    3. sparkline user template (e.g. {{t}} for Tantek Çelik)
    • others?

Projects

  • Projects still needs a massive update. How do we make this happen so that it's useful for both newcomers and existing community members of as many Generations as possible?

Getting Started

  • Getting Started can be a make or break page for new people discovering the community; how can we make this page as easy / simple / accessible as possible with clear(er) instructions and explanations of the benefits of each thing we recommend people do?

Other types of pages?

  • What other types of pages need help / improvements?

More Logos

Would it be useful to have new logos for various IndieWeb things, building blocks etc.? (more stickers, etc.)

Interested

  • ... add yourself if you're interested in a session about this

E.g. which of these?

Community Repos

  • David Shanske would like to discuss how to decide what belongs in the community repositories and how projects here should develop. Currently, these host things like the WordPress Indieweb plugin and various mf2 parsers.

Code of Conduct Review

While reviewing our code of conduct and others, I realized others have concrete steps and contact info for addressing CoC violations, such as an email address or phone number to report to. e.g. Mozilla's Community Participation Guidelines that they asked us to abide by for IndieWeb Summit has a "Reporting" section.

Interested


prep for keynotes tomorrow

Aaron Parecki: We should spend a little time prepping/rehearsing for keynote demos the next morning, to make sure the demos are snappy and to the point and don't take up a ton of the morning time. Last year I think we were a little too rambly in the morning without making a clear point.

future meetings

Aaron Parecki: we should discuss what it might look like to have more regular meetings like this, potentially even completely online, because:

  • there is a very long list of sessions here, and it's likely we won't have time to go in depth on everything
  • we've been talking about things like the chat channels for months without feeling like we can do anything about it until this meeting
  • most of the participants here are remote anyway

session name

Timebox: MM min. (assume 30min by default)

PROPOSER(S): SUMMARY

  • DETAILS

Discussion

When?

  • Morning of 2018-06-25, because:
    • morning = remote participation with European leaders
    • the "before lunch" time is particularly effective at having a high-cognitive-functioning focused meetup to decide on "hard questions" of community and such
    • break for lunch / random leader bonding activity
    • afternoon: optional OSBridge barcamp day
    • afternoon: or just enjoy Portland outdoors in the sunshine


Options: (please note your opinions/thoughts below!)

  • 9:00-13:30, get your own breakfast beforehand (ok to bring in)
    • ...
  • 8:00-12:30, kick it off with a DIY veggie breakfast taco bar
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Task List

See Also