LoqiTheGillies: KevinMarks_ left you a message 7 hours, 51 minutes ago: I made an indieweb friendly Hugo template for lifewithalacrity.com - have you done something similar?
LoqiOk so I’m making this post to advocate what I’m calling The League of Extraordinary Websites. Essentially what this is, is a pact, where each member of the league tries to be interoperable with every other website in the league. We then post our ...
Loqi[Jeremy Cherfas] I'm still not sure I understand the full extent of interoperability in this context. And I do not have full access to all the bells and whistles that make this site work, or the knowledge to use them if I did have. But the idea sounds like a good one...
ZegnatI am not even sure if any of them actually ran trackbacks/pingbacks on their sites. I just randomly bumped into this and thought (with its @-marker) it was extremely close to what we are doing.
julianfJust tried 'julianf' and 'julianfoad' and 'Julian.foad.me.uk' but the preview doesn't indicate they work... or doesn't the preview expand template references?
julianfI recently started trying out UBOS (formerly IndieBox). UBOS website has no integration between IRC mailinglists and archiving of content (no IRC logs) and I suggested using something like Mattermost or Matrix for their own site.
julianfIs the desire to run one's own combination of tools stronger than the drive to use something like Matrix and perhaps encxourage other IW-like projects to use it too and work together to improve its interoperability?
julianf(Possible other projects that might be friendly to cooperate: UBOS; Matrix itself and some of its client & server projects; some things at Mozilla; Dowse.eu; for a start.)
julianfI'm feeling like it might be possible to get a bigger "push" behind such a system, if it truly seems to be going in the right direction, by sharing some of the effort of setting up a few instances.
julianfI'm feeling like it might be possible to get a bigger "push" behind such a system, if it truly seems to be going in the right direction, by sharing some of the effort of setting up a few instances.
julianfLike... I'd like to set up my own instance, but haven't much time to dedicate to doing it myself with all the trial-and-error that I know it would require.
julianfBut if someone -- whether individuals or iw.org as a group -- would be setting it up at the same time, and maybe one or two or three or more of us individuals too -- then perhaps that "League of Extraordinary Websites" could be partly kick-started this way.
julianfWhat I'm observing is that while there are many silo-like open-source chat/communication systems (Mattermost, GNU-social, ...) only a very few seem to take the approach of designing a federation model and APIs. Tent was one, but seems to be falling behind, last time I looked.
LoqiThe IndieWeb is about owning your domain and using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and ownyourdata https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
julianfOn my personal web site I want to be able to set up, easily, things like: an IRC-like system, especially one for private use by friends and family, privately archived and not publically accessible. Similarly for other styles of communication. Yet able to join in with public comms when wanted.
sknebel_matrix_tjulianf: I'm not sure you need a large push to get started on Matrix -> at least initially you can use "public" servers and interfaces like I'm doing right now -> no need to set anything up
aaronpkTheres certainly overlap in the concepts of self hosting tools, but Matrix isn't really "webby" so it's kind of a separate thing than IndieWeb. Certainly there's a lot of good things about Matrix especially compared to other chat systems. But I'm not aware of anyone using Matrix to host their website for example
julianfsknebel_matrix_t: By "push" I mean, if you agree it's doing good work in making a truly decentralized "host-your-own-part-if-you-wish" work, then let's use it here (and yes then I'll try to do my part and use it personally) and help others to use it, and then we'll be able to help get relevant IW standards integrated in it where appropriate etc.
aaronpkjulianf: this chat room is available via a web interface on indieweb.org, IRC on Freenode, and Slack. It's also possible to join via Matrix as sknebel_matrix_t demonstrated, so I think that's about all one can hope for in that regard!
tantekthough the last time I remember an indepth discussion of this was arguing with the XMPP advocates (and projects that use it) that XMPP was a non-starter in terms of a federated social *web* (2010 FSWS discussions)
jkphltantek: i'm afraid i've still got a looooong way to go until i'm really ready for posting status messages to my own site. but i'll do my best to start sometime during 2017!
tantek2017-01-01-commitments are implementation and launch commitments publicly made by the IndieWeb community to ship on their personal sites by 2017-01-01 00:00 local time
[sebsel]Especially the second point, re-importing my tweets with ‘u-syndication’-links on them, and the 2016-tweets for the first time… that one I keep postponing. But not this year!
Zegnatsknebel, could you see if inoreader still understands https://licit.li ? I took out u-url and added a static u-uid. But I am guessing that is a no-go.
Loqi[Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML/H...
[sebsel]Yeah, I just found the mail they send you after you deactivate. It was 09-09. A good day to do something like that. But then I missed it for this year!
masoudHi there. First time joining here. https://masoud.abkenar.net/ I just put rel=me links in my website. Do you think this is a proper patch to indiwebify this Pelican theme?
KartikPrabhumasoud: also Addal is right, if there are already "social media" links in the actual content, you could add rel-me to them directly instead of duplicating it in the head
masoudwhich brings me to another question: is it enough to have rel=me links on the home page, and have blogs in subfolders without rel=me links? In this case, https://masoud.abkenar.net/blog/fa/
gRegorLoveHi masoud. rel-me links on the homepage only should be fine. You can try signing in to the wiki using your domain now, if you haven't already