If they tried to simplify their horribly complex installation process, I would even give it a try â only as an experiment, obviously â but they simply keep people away with that messy installation process.
Theyâre moving away from open source which they only recently âembracedâ; and also back toward their old âtiers of chargesâ model. I guess âProâ says it all. A personal comment: Their slick video completely lit-up my radar; I inherently distrusted its âtrustworthy voice.â I think the parody video does a good job of highlighting the issues the blogging community should have with this development.
I just switched to WordPress from Movable Type, and while I love how using WordPress so far, I have to say that I think 6A does have one thing going for them in terms of support. And Iâm not saying that just because I use to work for them in TypePad support. I ran into some issues with my WordPress installation and trying to get help for them through the forums is like pulling teeth. I would much rather pay a licensing fee or something for some official support instead of having to find some random developer and trust theyâll resolve my issues.
Frankly, I thought it was more telling that they sped it up 100 times! Of course, Iâm not sure Iâd be all that proud of the accomplishment, considering the implication and, well, how slow MoveableType was when I used it. WordPress has never timed out on me while going through a ârebuilding pagesâ routine.
Alas, Iâve never used MT so I donât get the joke. However, on the subject of comments Iâd be interested to know what the false positive rate for Akismet is. I used to look at the spam to make sure there were no real comments there but Iâve never ever seen one so most of the time I just delete them without checking. Iâd be happy to have this happen automatically, with comments put in the trash for a week then purged. That way if anyone ever said âwhat happened to my commentââŠ
Itâs not clear what the Trash feature means here, but itâs possible that MT has implemented my suggestion already.
If Akismet wonât take out the trash automatically perhaps, for consistency, it should have a little bubble with a number in it so you know when itâs time to do it?
On the Akismet spam page it says âSpam is automatically deleted after 15 days, so donât sweat it.â So I think it does exactly what you ask for already?
It is still sometimes stunning to me how people get snowed by closed-source. Itâs not all bad, of course. There are some good things out there worth paying for. But for the most part, not the case. I love how one commenter above talked about support. If support is all the 6A has to offer, I think that I will stick with WP. Cheers Matt.
So Matt, do you suppose this revolutionary ability to comment on posts might finally be available in WordPress 2.7? Wouldnât want you WordPress folks to fall behind the curve on this one.
Man this would have been funny if Iâd hadnât gone past puberty 15 years back. Or if you guys didnât get your undies twisted every time Six Apart launches something. Or if you guys had an iota of class to take it gracefully when they dish it out to you. Maybe the coverage their launch got hit the nerve or may be itâs just that every now and then you need attention like a high school teenager. I remember you throwing your toys out of your pram not so long ago when they took a dig.
Grow the heck up â just because a bunch of fan boys say âyayâ every time you have a verbal diarrhea, doesnât mean you are doing any good.
By golly! I never noticed that!! All this time Iâve been checking in there every few days and taking out the trash and now you tell me it takes itself out!! Fantastic. Thanks
Elliot, a few blog posts and 5 comments on a post donât hit my nerves. Our last major release had 1,277 trackbacks and an announcement video viewed over 700,000 times. Six Apart is a 200 person company and 3+ years older than Automattic, Iâm sure theyâll survive a little harmless ribbing.
Hmm.. Have the people over Six Apart ever heard about BuddyPress? :)) It might be fun to see what theyâll gonna do about that, once itâs out. BuddyPress alone, will beat MT Pro by far đ
giovanealex What horribly complex installation process are you talking about. All I have ever done is ftp up the files, set the perms on cgi and edit the config. Pretty much the same as the WP installations Iâve done.
Of course having a sense of humor is required in these situations. Iâve never really seen any of the WP or MT hierarchy and/or respective developers get a serious burr in their collective shorts about any past or present ribbing, including this one. Friendly sparring between two (not really) rival efforts is basically seen as âall in funâ. Even serious constructive criticism between the two is often well received.
Both of these teams work hard at their products so there has to be some time to play as well.
Hehehe
You shouldnt have fun with others people disgrace..
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queue the hordes of MT fanatics in 3âŠ2âŠ
I could never get Movable Type working anyway đ Too complex for me I guess, haha đ Funny!
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How he talked ironically. Itâs bizarre some people really want to you MT even if it s*cks
Aww. You donât have to be cynical.
But they really are becoming self-mockery.
I installed MT the other day⊠and deleted it 4 hours later when it STILL sucked.
If they tried to simplify their horribly complex installation process, I would even give it a try â only as an experiment, obviously â but they simply keep people away with that messy installation process.
Oh my god! Where does Six Apart get these fantastic ideas?! I am considering switching nowâŠ
or not. Great parody. đ CheezburgerâŠ. hahahaha.
Thanks for posting, Matt!
Really though Matt, no need to bash others â the beautiful thing is that WordPress kicks so much ass that it speaks for itself.
Leave it at that, no need to kick them while theyâre down.
That was just over the top. I couldnât stop laughing. Thanks Matt, that was precious.
Cheers.
Wow. Whatâs next? Cars with power steering?
Theyâre moving away from open source which they only recently âembracedâ; and also back toward their old âtiers of chargesâ model. I guess âProâ says it all. A personal comment: Their slick video completely lit-up my radar; I inherently distrusted its âtrustworthy voice.â I think the parody video does a good job of highlighting the issues the blogging community should have with this development.
Oh, I just adore when people applaud mediocre humor, especially the self-serving kind.
What you should really see are my nude photos of Buddypress. *cue juvenile tittering*
I just switched to WordPress from Movable Type, and while I love how using WordPress so far, I have to say that I think 6A does have one thing going for them in terms of support. And Iâm not saying that just because I use to work for them in TypePad support. I ran into some issues with my WordPress installation and trying to get help for them through the forums is like pulling teeth. I would much rather pay a licensing fee or something for some official support instead of having to find some random developer and trust theyâll resolve my issues.
That said, Iâm not going back to MT. đ
âAnd if youâre a personal blogger or have a current MT license, Movable Type Pro is a free update.â
f*ck that. GG WordPress â FTW!
I used to use Movable Type 3 back in the day. Then I saw the light. I agree with btard⊠âWordPress â FTW!â
Haha! Thatâs great. Of course the Movable Type folks were using IE too. Go figure.
Frankly, I thought it was more telling that they sped it up 100 times! Of course, Iâm not sure Iâd be all that proud of the accomplishment, considering the implication and, well, how slow MoveableType was when I used it. WordPress has never timed out on me while going through a ârebuilding pagesâ routine.
I think itâs essential that OpenID suppport and OAuth libraries are added to the WordPress core.
Wow. Whatâs next? Cars with
powersteering?Fixed.
Alas, Iâve never used MT so I donât get the joke. However, on the subject of comments Iâd be interested to know what the false positive rate for Akismet is. I used to look at the spam to make sure there were no real comments there but Iâve never ever seen one so most of the time I just delete them without checking. Iâd be happy to have this happen automatically, with comments put in the trash for a week then purged. That way if anyone ever said âwhat happened to my commentââŠ
Since nobody else has posted it:
http://www.weblogmatrix.org/compare/Movable-Type+Wordpress
Itâs not clear what the Trash feature means here, but itâs possible that MT has implemented my suggestion already.
If Akismet wonât take out the trash automatically perhaps, for consistency, it should have a little bubble with a number in it so you know when itâs time to do it?
On the Akismet spam page it says âSpam is automatically deleted after 15 days, so donât sweat it.â So I think it does exactly what you ask for already?
It is still sometimes stunning to me how people get snowed by closed-source. Itâs not all bad, of course. There are some good things out there worth paying for. But for the most part, not the case. I love how one commenter above talked about support. If support is all the 6A has to offer, I think that I will stick with WP. Cheers Matt.
So Matt, do you suppose this revolutionary ability to comment on posts might finally be available in WordPress 2.7? Wouldnât want you WordPress folks to fall behind the curve on this one.
giovanealex â Actually⊠compared to previous install routines from MT this past one was actually quite nice.
Man this would have been funny if Iâd hadnât gone past puberty 15 years back. Or if you guys didnât get your undies twisted every time Six Apart launches something. Or if you guys had an iota of class to take it gracefully when they dish it out to you. Maybe the coverage their launch got hit the nerve or may be itâs just that every now and then you need attention like a high school teenager. I remember you throwing your toys out of your pram not so long ago when they took a dig.
Grow the heck up â just because a bunch of fan boys say âyayâ every time you have a verbal diarrhea, doesnât mean you are doing any good.
By golly! I never noticed that!! All this time Iâve been checking in there every few days and taking out the trash and now you tell me it takes itself out!! Fantastic. Thanks
Elliot, a few blog posts and 5 comments on a post donât hit my nerves. Our last major release had 1,277 trackbacks and an announcement video viewed over 700,000 times. Six Apart is a 200 person company and 3+ years older than Automattic, Iâm sure theyâll survive a little harmless ribbing.
Movable type, now with comment scoring.
I think its great to take this step forward, but they need to notice that they are still many steps behind WP.
Hmm.. Have the people over Six Apart ever heard about BuddyPress? :)) It might be fun to see what theyâll gonna do about that, once itâs out. BuddyPress alone, will beat MT Pro by far đ
Well, James, if this (horrible) installation process which Iâm talking about â the current one â is quite nice, I wonder how bad it was before.
giovanealex What horribly complex installation process are you talking about. All I have ever done is ftp up the files, set the perms on cgi and edit the config. Pretty much the same as the WP installations Iâve done.
Of course having a sense of humor is required in these situations. Iâve never really seen any of the WP or MT hierarchy and/or respective developers get a serious burr in their collective shorts about any past or present ribbing, including this one. Friendly sparring between two (not really) rival efforts is basically seen as âall in funâ. Even serious constructive criticism between the two is often well received.
Both of these teams work hard at their products so there has to be some time to play as well.