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Anonymous MC said...

"for those who recognize that adolescence is properly a transitional stage and not a resting place, and that overall adolescence is (by far) the worst, most miserable and selfish, phase of a normal person's life"

This has never been difficult to recognize for me, because I really was not happy in adolescence, then I went to college, served a mission, got married and had kids, i.e., became an adult, and all along felt that I was much happier than as an adolescent. The question is why so many people feel differently. I wonder if it is the total isolation of the educational system from reality.

For example, the story of many people from my generation is one of regular "achievements" and accolades from grade school all the way through college, then utter befuddlement when they enter the working world and find their education to have been mostly useless in preparing them for real world success. Most of their good grades were really measures of enthusiasm for school rather than any objective standard of accomplishment, merit, or acquired knowledge. And even where the educational system measured the acquisition of knowledge, the "knowledge" acquired was often nothing more than political indoctrination.

So a typical person aged 22-40 is likely to look back fondly on their adolescence as the last time in their life when success came easily to them (because it was phony success). Although they would be too embarrassed to say that they wish they were teenagers again, they don't seem very excited about being adults. Especially since the principal markers of adulthood, marriage and children, are considered irresponsible to undertake until one has accomplished certain markers of "success" that are increasingly difficult to obtain given the inadequacy of their education.

I personally accomplished very little in the way of good grades prior to college because I just never could feel excited about school, although I excelled in other endeavors. That was a major source of unhappiness, and I just didn't feel the same disillusionment upon exiting the system.

30 September 2015 at 02:00

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@MC - There is much is what you say - indeed my life was generally like your 'typical person'.

I think that the root of the problem is that 'work' is simply not able to bear the weight of the implicit and explicit promises which have been set up for it, the years and years of build-up - indeed, for the vast majority of people, work is something they do for the money (and as little of it as possible). For the vast majority, work just is not as fulfilling as it is supposed to be early in life (how could it be? - when you look at most jobs).

The idea of marriage and children being the proper (worldly) goal of life, is simply laughable/ weird in modern culture - which indeed constantly perpetuates the opposite view.

Since people (especially women) are vulnerable to peer pressure, and since the mass media signal is psychologically interpreted as ultra peer pressure, this animus against maturity negatively affects even those who live the life - who have good marriages and loving families - they may feel guilty, inadequate, apologetic about their life choices.

Also, in the short term (and that is all the mass media dominated modernity considers) there are great socio-economic advantages in keeping the population in perpetual adolescence - malleable, discontented, existentially alone...

30 September 2015 at 05:11