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Blogger Jonathan said...

I've mentioned before that I really enjoy your writing, and it has changed my thinking much more than anything else lately, but it would be even stronger with concrete examples of the phenomena you write about.

If you are going to write a book--and I hope you do--then concrete examples will be necessary both to illustrate your ideas and to convince your readers that these phenomena are real.

I also believe concrete examples will help you pursue your ideas to the next deeper level, where you said you want to go a few posts ago.

24 February 2011 at 22:05

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

Jonathan - While I agree that examples would be helpful, I notice that you use a pseudonym and block your profile - you will understand, perhaps, why I cannot use examples. The same reason you do not use your name. Very few people write on the subjects covered by this blog and use their real names - those of us who do so must write in a kind of implied way. As for the 'deeper level' - I'm afraid that this is just about it (with a bit more on similar lines over the next days, perhaps)! It is not the lack of examples (I know what I mean) but the limits of my ability. I'm going as deep as I can - for greater depth you'll need to find someone with more insight than me - Fr Seraphim Rose, for example, is light years beyond me.

24 February 2011 at 23:27

Anonymous Das Beagle said...

Bravo, Mr Charlton. You have outdone yourself.

25 February 2011 at 07:24

Blogger SonofMoses said...

Dear Bruce,

I wondered how you were going to begin.

In the event I think you’ve done brilliantly. You have given birth to something inspired, having the breathtaking, refreshing, even slightly abrasive and challenging, tang of undisguised truth.

Thankyou.

So, fare forward with courage. I look forward to the time when this potent corrective is ready to be released upon the thirsty world.

25 February 2011 at 08:25

Anonymous Alex said...

Bruce writes: "Political correctness has emerged over historical time, indeed over at least the past millennium....."

Have you read Frank Ellis' book Political Correctness and the Theoretical Struggle? He identifies the origin of modern political correctness with the widening of political control to education and personal behaviour in Soviet Russia.

Mr Ellis lectured in the department of Russian and Slavonic Studies at Leeds University. A few years ago, he was more or less compelled to resign because of his "abhorrent views" - i.e. his politically incorrect opinions.

25 February 2011 at 10:57

Blogger Dennis Mangan said...

Bruce, perhaps I missed it, but while you have given many examples of how PC functions and whence it came, nowhere do you define it. How is it different from left/liberal ideology?

25 February 2011 at 14:40

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

Dennis - when I was at an impressionable age I read Karl Popper rubbishing philosophers obsession with precise definitions - pointing out that physicists seem to do fine without an exact definition of the electron or the atom (or biologists of the gene, as another example).

But in a nutshell I regard political correctness as mainstream leftist politics post-1965.

This marked the tipping point between the left seeking equality of opportunity (meritocracy) and switching to equality of outcomes (egalitarianism), there was a switch from the left being based on economic policy (especially the belief that the planned command economy was actually more efficient than the market) and a move towards cultural engineering via propaganda and 'consciousness-raising', the beginning of the left's systematic dishonesty - especially suppression and demonizing of IQ research (IQ had been a leftist baby when the left was were concerned with equality of opportunity and meritocracy), the beginning of the left's obsession with the Nazis and eugenics, the beginning of a shift away from the working class/ unions to a rainbow coalition of 'victims' of 'prejudice' and so on...

Of course PC was continuous with socialism (or liberalism as you call it in the US) - but PC was when socialism became cut-off from the real world and from feedback, became focused on process rather than outcomes.

Another word for PC would be the New Left.

I have known a few Old Left intellectuals who live and work locally - and they were (and are) extremely anti-PC: e.g.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/8279688/Norman-Dennis.html

25 February 2011 at 17:59