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Anonymous Gary Bleasdale said...

The most important post on the Internet in 2021, so far - pointing in the right direction (which almost nobody seems to be seeing), showing us what has become the only path we have left in order to maintain psychological integrity, and a chance at a life spiritually-well-lived.

17 February 2021 at 10:56

Blogger Crosbie said...

I have been troubled for a while by Luke, 14:28-31:

For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.


Troubling because it seemed a rebuke to the man building the tower and I've never been good at counting the cost. But I am inclined these days to read almost the opposite: that the man who counts the cost is the worldly man, and if we are to follow Christ we *cannot* count the cost. In support of that interpretation, I note the penalty for he who fails to complete his tower is mockery. Surely Jesus was not giving us advice on social acceptability in this parable?

17 February 2021 at 12:00

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Gary - Thanks.

@Crosbie - I don't know whether this passage is accurate; at any rate I can't make much sense of it, and it occurs in a section which has several parables in a row that don't seem quite to add up.

My belief is that Luke is a collection of stories about Jesus gathered sometime later and at second or third hand from several/ many people - and sometimes (when judged against the Fourth 'John' Gospel) the message has been garbled in transmission (or includes 'folk tales' that accumulated) - as with the Luke story of the woman washing Jesus's feet with ointment, where the proper interpretation (John) has become garbled.

17 February 2021 at 13:35

Blogger Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

@Bruce - That's one of several cases where Luke has specific details that otherwise occur only in John (for example, the idea of a man named Lazarus coming back from the dead!) but in garbled form.

17 February 2021 at 13:59

Blogger Jacob Gittes said...

Thank you for this. It points to the feeling I've been having that there are literally no living institutions that can assist me much at all. Most are pernicious.

The joyful spiritual journey. I'm coincidentally reading LOTR with my son. It has the same feel: a journey that seems doomed from the beginning, against great odds, but taken with faith and friendship and joy.

This question came to me this morning, and may be related:
Is it possible that part of God's plan is the destruction of this current system, because it may have become too evil to save? Even if that is true, we should still act as you have stated, because the journey is spiritual and about eternity. And this spiritual journey is the only path to the creation of something new post-collapse, if there is anything new to be built on the material plane.

I have to admit - things seem grim on the ground here.

17 February 2021 at 14:43

Anonymous Charlie said...

Thank you for this wonderful post!

17 February 2021 at 14:59