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Blogger Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Very important point!

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be" (1 John 3:2) -- meaning that our ultimate destiny has not been determined, because it is up to us, working in harmony with God and others, to create it.

Or here's how Joseph Smith put it in D&C 58:27-29.

"Verily I say, men should . . . do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness; for the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward. But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, . . . the same is damned."

25 May 2021 at 09:15

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Wm - Good quote from Doctrine and Covenants: https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/58?lang=eng

I think that this insight is usually very much downplayed and forgotten - for understandable reasons of 'church order' and social mores - which leads to confusion in understanding the purpose of creation, and the purpose of this mortal life; and in the end, makes Christianity logically-incoherent.

25 May 2021 at 09:56

Blogger Francis Berger said...

I think Arkle's observation fits in well with the idea that God needs man as much as man needs God because man can add something to Creation that God alone cannot. And I believe this is something God expects of man. This is essence of creativity - the call God is waiting for man to answer (a la Berdyaev).

I hold this be an elevating and empowering insight as it elevates and empowers both man and God. Man and God working together in harmony is greater than either working independently.

25 May 2021 at 13:08

Anonymous Hamish said...

I think God wants us to create and surprise him unique ways, in the best sense as a loving father would want of his children. I can see how this conflicts with the traditional idea of him being omnipotent and all knowing, as what would be the point of us ever being incarnated In this life if this was so?

28 May 2021 at 12:02