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Anonymous JP said...

OT -- Putin's remarks are worth reading.

http://eng.kremlin.ru/transcripts/6007

"Another serious challenge to Russia's identity is linked to events taking place in the world. Here there are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote paedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

What else but the loss of the ability to self-reproduce could act as the greatest testimony of the moral crisis facing a human society? Today almost all developed nations are no longer able to reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values ​​embedded in Christianity and other world religions, without the standards of morality that have taken shape over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity. We consider it natural and right to defend these values​​. One must respect every minority’s right to be different, but the rights of the majority must not be put into question."

29 October 2013 at 18:50

Anonymous Wm Jas said...

The mass media controls society, but nobody (no person or specific group of people) controls the mass media.

Are you sure? I think most Westerners would have no problem identifying a very specific group of people that controls the mass media. (Even those who disagree will know exactly which group I am referring to, which shows how widespread this understanding is.)

30 October 2013 at 01:13

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@WmJas - The point does not, of course, hinge upon some kind of empirical investigation - but on the fact that something so incomprehensibly big, dispersed and continuously productive as the mass media, which keeps growing so fast - isn't the kind of thing that could be controlled (except for the main exemplary story/s of the day, where any departure from political correctness may be aggressively punished - even there is it hard to pin down).

30 October 2013 at 05:16

Blogger Matias F. said...

Is this systems theory? Then it could be said that the mass media works against social differentiation, which according to Niklas Luhmann was so important for a rational organization of society, and tries to make everything follow the standards of mass media.

Then it follows that structure or differentiation can not be created via the mass media, but only working independently of the mass media.

30 October 2013 at 08:16

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@MF - It isn't systems theory - but I have presumably carried-over some of that way of thinking from my pre-Christian and pro-modernization days

http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/modernization-imperative.html

From the Luhmann perspective - which is a secular Right perspective - the main problem with Leftism is eactly the kind of de-differentiation which has gathered strength and spread in scope since the mid 1960s - with all social systems being brought under the Leftist political ideology, hence necessarily less efficient at their primary function.

For example, when Leftism re-takes the economy you get a centrally 'planned' command economy (long since in place in the UK, just being introduced in the US); when Leftism is put over science you get the suppression of knowledge about intelligence and the creation of pseudo-science like Lysenkoism and Anthropogenic Global Warming Tackle Climate Change; when Leftism is put above Law, then you get Hate Crimes.

Thus more and more of modern life is nonsense, except in the light of the ruling ideology.

But there is not a symmetry between the ruling ideology of an olden theocracy, and the ruling ideology of secular Leftism - because Leftism is not cohesive but anti-cohesive.

So we are in the psychotic situation that the main thing which causes modernity to cohere is the main thing which is destroying its cohesion - viz The Mass Media.

30 October 2013 at 10:08

Anonymous Anonymous said...

'The worst problem is that by consuming a lot of the mass media for a lot of our lives, we are entrained to its cognitive mode; that mode becomes habitual, normal - and eventually unavoidable. Ultimately, we cannot think otherwise, but only in the way that the mass media thinks.'

The MSM/mass media have indeed been weaponised against civilisation.

However, I think your analysis rather avoids the unfortunate reality that; in the end heroin addicts deserve to be addicted. Alcoholics deserve to be alcoholics and people who decide to sit in front of the television every day of their lives deserve to be boring soulless, unhappy mindless etc.

It's tough but it's true.

No-one can be enslaved unless they submit to enslavement.

If everyone reading this can identify the mass media as corrosive and dangerous; then why do English parents hand over their children to the television from the earliest age? Then the i-phone?

We can escape the gravitational pull of degenerate MSM, are we so special.

Surly, to analyse the mass media and it's social effectiveness we must equally ask questions of those who would welcome such effluent into their minds every single day. Year after year.
The sort of people who sit with their children to view soap operas.

We can 'understand the danger' of the mass media all we wish, but with a People like this; if it's was not the television/entertainment industry, then it would most certainly be something else...perhaps something worse.

I used to despise the British political party system.
eventually it dawned on me that with The Great British Public, really, no decent politician could ever emerge or survive.

Similarly, decent people simply do not give i-phones to their young children nor leave them alone on 'social networking' sites.

Less and less I find it useful to blame the 'MSM' or 'the system' or 'political correctness' or whatever....

Let's tell the truth about the individuals who nurture and maintain these abominations. They are all around us every day and no-one is holding a gun to their head.

John Richardson


30 October 2013 at 22:38