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Blogger Lucinda said...

This is an important kind of repentance because it involves re-evaluation of symbols to which we have become habituated, and perhaps that is part of the reason they begin to do more harm than good.

24 May 2023 at 21:53

Blogger william arthurs said...

The word 'symbol' has gone on a journey from symbolon, a self-authenticating token of professed faith (one of the traditional Christian creeds), to a word you can always imagine has 'mere' in front of it and also implying a negation.

Eg. this bread is not His Body, it is merely symbolic of it.

Possibly therefore we could date the start of the draining of content from the symbol, to the mediaeval nominalism that enabled subversive questions about the Mass to be posed.

25 May 2023 at 11:35

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@william a - Or, as I think the causality went; medieval nominalism was a response to the changing consciousness that - for the first time - enabled Men to distinguish the symbol from the thing. A false response, true; but it had not been possible before.

25 May 2023 at 12:07

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

Lucinda - Symbols, places, institutions... I have often found it painful, and inducing a lasting a sense of loss, to acknowledge that they have become ineffective - or even corrupted and inverted. Nonetheless, it is something that (it seems) must be done.

25 May 2023 at 12:50

Blogger My name is Matt said...

The Harry Potter series is one that comes to mind when I think of inversion and perversion.

Going back through the books always leaves me with a warm glow, while watching the movies leave a foul aftertaste best described as akin to the Taint on saidin from the wheel of time series.

The movies manage to perfectly bring to life "the world" while ignoring and sometimes inverting "the spirit" of the world. And the way it's accomplished...so subtle and clever!

29 May 2023 at 04:40

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Matt - Very true. Most of the HP movie series was just at the level of ingenious but trivial entertainment, and could have been the accidental result of spiritually insensitive people. But the Deathly Hallows was subverted/ inverted deliberately - as it would have to be (from their POV), so saturated by Christian symbolism, and even allegory, is the original.

The actual climax of the book - the final duel, the last 'discussion' between Harry and Voldemort, focused on Riddle's need for 'remorse', and that it could save his souls even at this very last moment (ie 'remorse' = repentance) was simply deleted! - at the price of making irrelevant nonsense of the main 7-books worth of plot - and, in filmic terms, completely messing-up the climactic and crucial battle.

This showed me that any price was worth paying in order to ensure that no Christian element - even by implication - would be detectable.

https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/12/deathly-hallows-part-ii-movie-what-is.html
https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/12/deathly-hallows-part-ii-movie-what-is.html

So stupid and inept when about its evil work, yet brilliantly moving in the c. 20 minute passage from Snape's death to Harry's death - with (as I recall) only the jarring note of Sirius wittering about people living-on in 'the heart' (pointing at the heart - yuk!) to spoil near-perfection of movie-craft.

29 May 2023 at 06:52