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Blogger William Wildblood said...

I couldn't agree more with all this, especially about the need to go it alone and how easily 'spirituality' can become merely therapeutic and reduced to what makes me feel good. Then you are on, to use your excellent phrase, 'Team Satan. But I would just add that I think the traditional 3 spiritual requirements of poverty, chastity and obedience are still necessary and, actually, they are what stops that descent to therapy. It's just that they are now necessary in a different way, an inner way. Poverty means letting go of the desire for worldly reward and recognition, chastity means a pure heart orientated towards love, especially love of God. And then obedience which, as you point out, cannot now be directed to any external authority is still important but should be directed towards the voice of the soul, to intuition, to conscience and, ultimately, to God. Paradoxically, to obey God is to be free and there is no other freedom.

21 November 2020 at 18:59

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@William - Yes, that's an important addition.

This 'positive' side is, however, a neglected aspect. I have been re-reading Arkle recently, and he is very helpful in inspiring me with a positive sense of how the spiritual Christian life *can* be joyous and exhilirating.

21 November 2020 at 22:23

Blogger cae said...

Yes, that all makes sense to me, and having practiced 'Romantic Christianity' for about the past 10 years (of course, I didn't have a name for it until I found your blogs) -
- I can attest that going "it alone" can indeed degenerate "into mere self-therapy"...

...However, I would like to add that along with "learning from experiences", a big part of my spiritual 'practice' involves learning from reading - of all types of materials -
- as I've found that pondering over information about 'the world' (philosophy, history, science, religion, etc.) in relation to God provides fodder for nourishing my relationship with Him/Her.

And certainly reading works from spiritual authors is really helpful to giving one contemplative 'material' for getting the mind into a sort of 'church' feeling (sacred mind space, I suppose you might say).
Even fictional works can be useful in regard to this - I highly recommend "The Robe" by Lloyd C. Douglas (can be found free online)

Because, I do believe that we are 'meant' to be developing/growing in our relationship with God, in the present, as opposed to only preparing for the afterlife.

Yet, although we absolutely don't want "spirituality degenerating into mere self-therapy" - there is something to be said for the idea that coming to 'know' our 'selves' more thoroughly can be helpful to improving our relationship with God, just as it is helpful in improving our relationships with family and friends.

Thank you for this post, Bruce!
Carol

21 November 2020 at 22:59

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Carol - Yes, I suppose the Romantic Christian life is just like a loving human relationship. It gives the deepest possible life satisfaction, but is not pursued just to get pleasure; and when love is real a relationship is not abandoned when pleasure diminishes. It isn't really complicated, its the nature of love.

22 November 2020 at 07:36

Blogger MagnusStout said...

Excellent post and comment by Mr. Wildblood.

What has been helpful for me in this journey is to love Truth and hate Lies (which I guess is an assumed part of Romantic Christianity). You have an excellent series of posts on the Cult of Lying Evil. Such focus seems appropriate given the testimony from others who have suffered under totalitarianism (ex: Solzhenitsyn, "Live Not By Lies").

Choosing evil is not freedom (as media shows), but bondage. The Good, Beautiful and True will remain so--regardless of the propaganda. These pervasive lies must be rejected because they will fracture the mind and corrupt the soul.

22 November 2020 at 16:09

Blogger Ron Tomlinson said...

I'd always thought that monks had it bad. To have to get out of bed at 5a.m. Novices having to make vows: the vows that William W. mentions above.

But, as he intimates, modern versions could be:

(1) Don't seek for societal reward or recognition,
(2) Don't engage in addictive behaviours (because they create mixed motives),
(3) Obey your conscience (for it is the only real freedom).

These, plus free meals and access to books, make monkhood seem more attractive!

25 November 2020 at 00:56