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"Hobbit Talk"

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Anonymous Samson J. said...

I love hobbit talk! Adventures and interactions with grand characters are great, but if we're quite honest, they're probably more enjoyable to read about than to actually live through. Shire talk always makes me feel comfortably and wistfully "at home", so to speak.

28 November 2012 at 02:01

Anonymous AlexT said...

If i could choose to be any creature in Middle Earth, i would probably be a Hobbitt. Now, my mind says 'Elf', but as Samson points out, that life might be better in theory than in practise, at least for humans. There is something very familiar about Hobbitts and their rural idyll.
One question i have always had about Bilbo: Is he unusual for living on his own? The description of the great burrow in Buckland makes it seem as if most Hobbits live communally with their extended family. I've heard the same thing about the Tooks. Which lifestyle is more common? Is property more often held by the 'clan' or by individuals. It's pretty clear that Hobbit families seem quite patriarchal. If anyone has any info/theories on this, would love to hear them.

28 November 2012 at 06:41

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@AT - Tolkien says somewhere (in his letters I think) that Bilbo and Frodo were very unsual hobbits in being unmarried and mostly living alone (and in other respects - e.g. being historical scholars); and that the highly fertile Sam was much closer to being a typical hobbit (except in his reverence for elves).

28 November 2012 at 09:53

Anonymous JP said...

Let me just say I am very, very glad that the names "Bingo" and "Trotter" were dropped in later drafts...

28 November 2012 at 18:52

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@JP - yes indeed. And Trotter's wooden shoes lasted a worryingly long time.

Tolkien's sense of words was independent of changes in practice in his lifetime - when Bingo became THE working class women's normal group recreation.

And he persisted in calling the Noldor as Gnomes - presumably because this had a plausible derivation from Gnosis/ knowledge which fitted these elves. Meanwhile in the mid twentieth century there was in England a fad for comical garden gnomes (more like cartoon dwarves) - which would have provided a difficult-to-overcome connotation for most readers.

28 November 2012 at 19:05

Anonymous Samson J. said...

If i could choose to be any creature in Middle Earth, i would probably be a Hobbitt. Now, my mind says 'Elf', but as Samson points out, that life might be better in theory than in practise, at least for humans. There is something very familiar about Hobbitts and their rural idyll.

"I am a hobbit, in all but size" - Old Tollers himself.

Meanwhile in the mid twentieth century there was in England a fad for comical garden gnomes (more like cartoon dwarves)

There still is, here.

28 November 2012 at 19:54