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Anonymous NLR said...

What's so strange about institutions falling apart is that it isn't just that they were co-opted or conquered. That has happened throughout history and people have found ways to deal with it. But in this case, people just went along with and accepted the co-option of institutions and then seemed to forget that it even happened. And also there was internal weakening and losing of purpose that made institutions able to be co-opted.

22 May 2024 at 12:08

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@NLR - You are right. This is something unprecedented.

The difference is that we are the first Men ever to live without God, without religion - as profound materialists.

(And that, of course, includes nearly-all the self-identified Christians.)

22 May 2024 at 12:14

Anonymous Brett Stevens said...

Either that, or apply Occam's Razor: the same template as Political Correctness was applied, namely filtering out anything that contradicts egalitarianism, which has as one of its tenets the notion that all individual misfortunes are caused by external forces like a dastardly evil virus.

22 May 2024 at 15:22

Blogger Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

I don't know why the aetiology of AIDS, of all things, is such a radioactive issue! What a bizarre pretext for a two minutes' hate.

23 May 2024 at 03:12

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Wm - Bizarre or not, it is a data point.

It became clear during the business that They were funding people to monitor the research literature for any dissenting paper challenging the HIV causation (impending or recently published), anywhere in the world; and had a system for blocking its publication or evoking withdrawal. The alphabet people lobby was apparently primarily involved - and it seems likely that, in some way, that power bloc was being defended.

For me the whole business was a kind of slo-mo revelation of the way the world was set-up and operated - and that "science" was merely a cog in the system - with individual "scientists" (qua professional researchers/ teachers) having no significant agency, nor wanting any!

23 May 2024 at 06:21

Anonymous Philip Neal said...

In recent years I have come to believe that a great deal of bad science conforms to a particular template. Its practitioners regard scientific research as a purely practical endeavour, aimed at solving social and medical problems, and accordingly combine factual reasoning and policy making into a single process. Symptoms include

1 The conviction that a serious danger has been demonstrated beyond any doubt.

2 Hostility to falsification, null hypothesis testing and statistical significance as obstacles to the action which urgently needs to be taken.

3 A willingness to suppress contrary opinion as a menace to public safety.

4 At least one would-be scientific genius, often well-connected politically, whose reputation would be destroyed if a seemingly career-making discovery was discredited.

The campaign against Duesberg fits this template more or less exactly.

For another example see Neil Lock's recent series on particulate matter and the war against motoring in Free Life web magazine (URL - libertarianism.uk).

23 May 2024 at 22:57

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@PN - As I said - I believe things are much Worse than you describe. It is not a matter of discerning bad science, among the (normal) good. The actual system of science has been corrupted and rendered useless by endemic untruthfulness.

24 May 2024 at 06:42

Blogger Matias F. said...

@Wm I don't find it at all bizarre that AIDS is an important issue for the system and dissent is still suppressed. At least in Finland in the early 1990's, AIDS was a very big issue in the media, schoolchildren knew what it was and were terribly afraid and there were posters in public warning about it and instructing to use condoms. It was as least as big a media-medical campaign as the mad cow disease and surpassed only the birdemic.

After all, AIDS did give an excuse to present homosexuals as victims and thus normalize them.

24 May 2024 at 10:55

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Matias - You are correct that that was a major policy priority, and (even in the mid 1980s) another (simultaneously) was the race "inclusivity" agenda which completely over-rode the importance of public health.

The propaganda mantra was that Everybody was at risk from AIDS, including all "heterosexuals" - and to that end publicity was given to a few scores of "heterosexually transmitted AIDS" in the UK. In fact, as it later emerged, these were either entirely or very nearly entirely in recently arrived African immigrants to London specifically - but this information was kept from the public - i.e. in order to protect the sexual/ race agenda, which was decisively regarded as more important than human lives.

The lesson I take is that for At Least 40 years (i.e. longer than most people realize), health policy has been firmly-subordinated to the left-totalitarian agenda. Health may be the excuse, but the reality is that actual here-and-now health is routinely risked and destroyed in pursuit of long-term political goals.

In other words, and for several/ many decades, the Primary goal of actual "health" policy is/has-been left-totalitarian political.

24 May 2024 at 11:50

Blogger Ranger said...

During the Birdemic, I realized that the Public Health Message was "Public Health is so important that we must do *anything* to stop a disease... except refrain from sin."

26 May 2024 at 13:46

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Ranger. True.

26 May 2024 at 13:57