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Blogger awildgoose said...

Excellent points.

I've had my own thoughts questioning how they can implement their totalitarian control system when so many things are falling apart.

AI and robotics aren't nearly advanced enough to maintain or manufacture things the controllers value, like private jets.

Meanwhile, in places like Baltimore they are producing 17 year olds with 0.17 GPAs on a 4.0 scale that must repeat all four years of high school. This person is useless other than as a street rioter.

On top of this, supply chains are falling apart. Ford Motors is building short, reducing shifts, and idling lines because they can't source the electronic components needed to complete their vehicles.

I don't see how these powerful factors help the controllers implement their totalitarian global control scheme.

19 March 2021 at 21:29

Blogger Zeno said...

That's an interesting perspective. I have no idea what they want, but the wanton destruction of everything that is good or simply working in the world at such an accelerated rate, is really something to behold.

I think maybe it's both things. On one side, there's "vaccine passports", "tracking apps", and all the surveillance stuff that Orwell didn't dream. On the other, the total chaos resulting from the disintegration of society which won't allow for this authoritarian controls to take place.

19 March 2021 at 21:37

Blogger A said...

I believe the most likely outcome, one that certain Billionaires openly endorse, is a mass dieoff. Even my nutty but mainstream secular associates argue population reduction is necessary to "save the world" by advocating for abortion, reduced birth rates, etc.

20 March 2021 at 01:49

Blogger Hatcher said...

I’ve had the sense lately that the idea is to make things so frayed, so dissonant & intolerable that when a “strong” ,” clear” solution is offered most will welcome it with great relief. What this will look like I’m not sure exactly, but it will be “centrist” & “reasonable”

20 March 2021 at 04:45

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Zeno - Yes, there are both things; the questions are: which is primary and which is trending- totalitarianism or destruction? It seems to be more and more the case that totalitarianism is a means to the end of destruction.

When I consider the functionality of institutions or organizations (i.e. the extent to which they do what they are supposed to be doing) I see universal and unremitting decline. i.e. I cannot think of a single institution that is not getting worse and worse at performing its proper function.

Indeed, nations are failing to do what they are supposed to do - not just failing, but deliberately doing the opposite.

Even worse, institutions are Not Even Trying to be more functional; but in all instances, institutions are primarily trying to do something else (something abstract/ vague/ incoherent and leftist). Scientists are not primarily trying to do science, teachers are not trying to educate, health service workers are not trying to improve their patients' health, law is not aiming at justice, the police are not trying to ... etc.

20 March 2021 at 09:16

Blogger A said...

Do you have an opinion on the birdemic gene therapy? I'm not sure if it is just recklessness, or a tool for more totalitarian control, or has a direct evil long-term health effect that still won't be realized until it's too late (for example, further reduced fertility wouldn't be noticed for a year?)

20 March 2021 at 21:50

Blogger A said...

I have noticed a spiritual dimension. Many are going into it as if it were a baptism, with my relatives announcing it proudly and being very pushy. Perhaps that is all, a sign of allegiance and sacrament.

20 March 2021 at 21:52

Blogger awildgoose said...

I really like the points about institutions, professions, and other cultural touchstones drifting further and further away from their ostensible core purposes.

That has been a huge problem in Western civilization since the '90s and there is next to no discussion of it anywhere.

21 March 2021 at 01:18

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@MA - "I have noticed a spiritual dimension. Many are going into it as if it were a baptism, with my relatives announcing it proudly and being very pushy. "

The birdemic 'peck'...I have noticed the same - it seems a major topic of conversation; with elements of mutual virtue signaling covering fear, and solidarity/ altruism, and a rather pathetic belief that it will 'allow things to return to normal'.

I have seldom seem a more pathetically obvious mass manipulation; building big lie upon big lie - without an end in sight and each lie reinforcing the previous one.

Of course the gene therapy peck will very probably do harm, perhaps in quantity more harm than any mass medical intervention ever - because it is so easy to do harm and so difficult to do good in medicine - and here They are not even trying.

The normal type of peck is 'just' an under-tested, hastily contrived, needless and (as always) not very effective intervention - like the usual ones for flu but with nastier after effects - when rolled out to near-zero risk population, obviously it will do more harm than good, - because there is no good to be done.

But the details don't matter. I find it simply astonishing that the masses believe the authorities are genuinely concerned to promote the health of the masses, or that they are telling the truth about the birdemic - or even attempting to tell the truth. We are equipped with natural and spontaneous instincts to detect liars - and people should not need to be told these things; but there has never in history been so insanely stupid a people as here and now in the West.

The subtraction of God and spirit, and their continued self-exclusion, has left people helpless fools.

21 March 2021 at 06:45

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@awg - This has been a theme of mine for a couple of decades (even before I was a Christian). I wrote about it in my books Thought Prison, Not Even Trying and Addicted To Distraction.

In fact, primarily functional institutions is not a natural thing for humans - because most societies are ruled by over-arching goals especially a religion. The Leftist erosion of functionality is something like the attempt to replace a real religion with a secular ideology - but whereas religion *can* be a positive purpose and force; Godless-ideologies are based on negative and oppositional goals; and destroy cohesion - which can only be restored by propaganda and force - but the negative ideology also erodes the effectiveness of these, as we see all around (with the incoherence of law, and disintegration of police, military etc) ... No cooperation, no cohesion.

The System collapses into short-termist self-interest, with corruption producing greater inefficiency until it collapses. But the collapse would not be to the earlier level, since old forms of cohesion are gone - but to a lower level. This is the prospect.

21 March 2021 at 06:53