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"In the beginning"

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Blogger Chiu ChunLing said...

Perhaps rather than saying that the words of John give as much as words can give, we should say that they give as much as we are willing to receive from words.

The same is also true of Christ.

29 May 2018 at 15:03

Blogger Daniel Voce said...

I have always loved the opening of the gospel: even before I was a Christian, in my teens and twenties, I would read it aloud and while I did not understand the words, I enjoyed the strange feeling they produced in me. For the last few months I have been following Rudolf Steiner's suggestion of repeating the first two paragraphs up to 'full of grace and truth'. It forms part of my morning meditation and I also say it to myself at times throughout the day. It is one of Steiner's ideas which I endorse wholeheartedly: the words continue to reveal new meanings and understandings of the passage and the world and Jesus. However, the role of the baptist is still a mystery. I used to find it faintly annoying that the author would bring the reader down to earth with a bump breaking off from the cosmic opening with 'there was a man sent from God'. Now I realise that he is one of THE great writers and the jolt is intentional. I can propose various explanations--John as a pre-Christian Christian, contrast between man and the Light, the role of each Christian in the world--but nothing satisfactory. I feel there is something that we should know about John the Baptist which is lost to history. Maybe it is each person's mission to discover what it is for himself.

29 May 2018 at 21:43

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Daniel - Maybe it is there, in the Fourth Gospel; but because of our preconceptions we aren't seeing it.

30 May 2018 at 06:41

Blogger Chiu ChunLing said...

Maybe it is earlier.

Maybe we should keep in mind that what we call "The Old Testament" is called such because it testifies of Christ, and the prophets who wrote it understood that this was what they were doing.

That said, the Gospel of John may well be the most concentrated testimony that occurs in the scriptures, if one sticks to complete books. Though it still depends somewhat on the reader.

30 May 2018 at 10:43

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Bradley - I agree. There needs to be something that sets John the Baptist above all the competition (Abraham, Moses, etc).

And we are told exactly what it is - that he baptised Jesus, and the Spirit came and rested and stayed upon him. Implicitly, this was when Jesus became what he finally was, and without this he would not have been.

In the Fourth Gospel, without any 'origins' Nativity story, no genealogy, John's Baptism is apparently the explanation of Jesus being Son of God.

This topic deserves its own blog post...

7 June 2018 at 06:48