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Blogger James Higham said...

Irregular almost always ends up the more pleasing.

9 August 2016 at 11:54

Blogger pyrrhus said...

The most beautiful building in the Chicago Loop, the Rookery, is somewhat rough and irregular in its black stone. Your landscape is very beautiful in its irregularity. Maybe we are closer to Nature with the irregular than with manmade lines....

9 August 2016 at 19:00

Blogger Karl said...

You ask:

Why would so many people want so much to describe everything as ultimately a matter of geometric shapes, or of 'fractals'!

In defense of fractals, their proponents (e.g. Benoit Mandelbrot in The Fractal Geometry of Nature) clearly perceived the deficiency of the classic geometer's toolkit of straight lines, conic sections, and sharp angles. The fractal remedy is doubtless incomplete, but it does assist the geometer who would come to terms with clouds and coastlines and trees.

9 August 2016 at 21:08

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Karl - I have never been very impressed with the proponents of fractals - beyond the anciently-understood knowledge that nature is organized in a hierarchy with a kind of homology between each layer - so that the cell is somewhat like a whole organism is like a society; or Goethe's idea of the leaf being the archetype of the plant; or indeed that there is a broad principle of microcosm and microcosm being analogous ('as above, so below').

I attended a lecture by Mandelbrot some 25 years ago - and he came across, pretty strongly, as a bullshit merchant. Presumably that did not reflect his mathematical ability - which must presumably have been genuine (I don't think mathematics could be faked at the high levels, at least not in those days); but his proposed applications of mathematics to life.

9 August 2016 at 22:30

Blogger William Wildblood said...

I've always found John Michell's geometric and straight line theories unconvincing. A sacred landscape should be without the regularity and balance that implies. I'm reminded of this quote from 'Towards the Mysteries'. The subject is art but would apply here too.

"You should create without balance. Balance is not harmony. Balance is mechanisation of the mind. It is putting one thing against another and leaves no room for spontaneous whole-heartedness".

10 August 2016 at 10:20

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@ William. Glad to have your endorsement!

Michell certainly had *many* good qualities, and when he is right he expresses it beautifully; but overall he was only *half*-correct about things-in-general (as conclusively implied by his endorsement of the sexual revolution: his failure to perceive that it formed the most effective of all the post-sixties shock troops against traditional values. This is the most common mistake among those who are spiritual - eg Christianised Platonists - but without any more specific theism. We minimally need God, and as personal as possible - not merely deity).

10 August 2016 at 10:43

Blogger William Wildblood said...

I think you know that I completely agree with what you say there.

Another quote that has just occurred to me which might (loosely) apply is "Aslan is not a tame lion"!

10 August 2016 at 10:50

Blogger Wurmbrand said...

Perhaps you should write sometime about the importance of landscape in lewis's writings, starting with That Hideous Strength. Jane's train ride to St. Anne's includes reverie as she passes through English countryside. It's something to thank God for. At the other end, we see the landscape literally rise up and bury alive one of the doers of wickedness (Devine, I think). Confer the Old Testament--the Psalms' evocations of the good earth expressing the delight of the Lord, and also the place where the earth opens up to swallow alive the traitors in the camp.

10 August 2016 at 16:58