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Anonymous Mia said...

Our church is evangelical and loves stories of a changed life. Somewhat awkwardly I have to admit that I am not changed in that way. I am not a different person. Yet the change in perspective was and is radical, so it's strange even to me that I have not changed more. Perhaps I am merely a baby Christian. Perhaps change is slower for modern souls with modern consciousness. But I currently feel convinced that God wants diversity in His flock and is not eager for a bunch of carbon copies even of his perfect Son. Instead I try to balance that against humility so that when I am judged I will remain willing to part with any aspect of myself that God rejects, even if it's precious to me.

21 December 2022 at 20:34

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Mia - That sounds like a good attitude.

21 December 2022 at 21:05

Blogger William Wildblood said...

If becoming a Christian inevitably made you happier then people would do it for selfish reasons. Indeed, we find that many people take to spirituality for the 'high' they hope to get from it. The true mark of a religious person is not that he receives God's gifts in the form of happiness or whatever but he can put up with suffering and hardship, unhappiness, with patience and fortitude.

22 December 2022 at 09:30

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@William "If becoming a Christian inevitably made you happier then people would do it for selfish reasons."

Strangely , when I was an atheist, I believed that Christians (or, at least, serious churchgoers) were indeed somewhat happier and better behaved than average (and there are plenty of statistics from before the millennium to confirm this).

But this still did not make me want to emulate them; since I snobbishly regarded Christians as happy *because* they were able to be self-deceiving, deluded, or had decided to settle for the second0rate etc.

Nowadays, life is harder than average for Christians (including serious churchgoers) - and this is probably another, but opposite, reason why atheists do not want to convert.

I mean, atheists did not convert because past Christians were too (stupidly) happy and too (wickedly) conformist; nowadays because Christians are too discriminated against and therefore (presumably) more miserable (because Christians are nowadays stupidly and wickedly dissident).

Any stick is good enough to beat a dog, as they say.

22 December 2022 at 10:04