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Anonymous Elijah Armstrong said...

Has shallowness worsened over those 40 years?

19 September 2013 at 07:35

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@EJ - Certainly: the curve has shifted toward shallowness so that the shallowest is far more superficial than anything in the early seventies, while depth is very hard to find.

In the early seventies there was still residual genuine idealism on the Left (especially the Christian Left and the 'ecology' Left derived from William Morris etc) - but not any more. And there were large islands of resistance to modernity- for example the medical profession and much of academic was pretty much outside of modernity and did things in their own way. Now they are assimilated. And there was also hope that all the shallowness was a pendulum swing which would self-correct - didn't happen.

So yes worse, much worse.

19 September 2013 at 08:01

Anonymous Nicholas Fulford said...

People have a hunger for meaning, so why are they eating junk food?

Because junk food is cheap, available, and requires little commitment and effort. To mine for meaning requires hard effort, and many resist that. Laziness is learned by default, and it becomes akin to a sysiphian boulder which weighs down the spirit and drains vitality.

Give a person something worth the effort, show them that they can realise something beyond themselves, but they have to struggle, be diligent, patient and driven. Do that, and there is a chance they will take up the torch. (But also show them that failure is something they will experience, but it has to not be a roadblock, but a teacher.)

19 September 2013 at 11:01

Anonymous Adam G. said...

People content themselves with shallowness because they are afraid.

They are afraid that if they confront ultimate questions they will find that life is meaningless.

It isn't a conviction of nihilism that makes our culture the way it is. It's a worry that nihilism may be right.

19 September 2013 at 16:34

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@AG - Wise words, I think. Presumably based on missionary experience.

"It's a worry that nihilism may be right." - I think there may be a further reaction to this worry - which is a kind of pre-emptive cynicism - where people deliberately expose themselves to the worst they can, in order not to be caught by surprise, to 'toughen' themselves.

But instead a diet of sordid shallowness leads to numbness and worsens the alienation, which leads to further self-exposure in an attempt to feel... anything.

19 September 2013 at 17:10

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni said...

The technique of making life shallower is to coarsen everything. Every subject that would not be mentioned in public even 30 years ago now appears everywhere, on TV, on billboards, in newspapers, on websites, in movies. Decency is not just mocked, it is driven out by vulgarity. I predicted in the
'70s that, the way things were going, there would someday be a TV or radio program consisting of 24-hour continuous shouting of violent obscenities and obscene profanities. The prospect seemed absurd. Watched a rap video or video game lately? That day has come.

19 September 2013 at 18:02

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I read commentaries like this on the emptiness of modern life, I ask myself what could turn things around. If a reactionary tyrant came to power could he infuse meaning into our lives by decree? I think not.

Draconian measures won't work when Draco himself is a so-called "liberal".

20 September 2013 at 10:58

Blogger Bruce Charlton said...

@Alex - For me, it was turned around by marriage, family and conversion - the triviality, superficiality and fakery are still there in public life and institutions; but now I know for sure that it is not the real reality.

20 September 2013 at 14:41