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Machine tags
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straup says:
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Jef Poskanzer says:
Nice. |
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aefitzhugh says:
Really nice to see this go live! Only wish I had time to play with it right now....
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Dan Coulter says:
If anyone is interested in joining a group to discuss a standardized system for assigning these machine tags, check out this group that I setup: flickr.com/groups/mtags/ |
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dajobe says:
I've just noticed that API calls returning a tag element now have a new XML attribute machine_tag="0" or "1".
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factoryjoe says:
Rock on. I think this is cool. (If it's not, someone tell me, m'kay?)
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stuartwhite says:
Fantastic Stuff... I wondered what this was all about last night when I added a new feature to my website (www.pinkspots.net). the feature allows users to tag flickr photos of bars/clubs with special tags in order to display those particular photos of on the related venue page of my site. |
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towering wing [deleted] says:
This is one of the great improvement!!! I'm so excited :-) Wonderful idea
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rhodes says:
This all sounds very appealing to me. Especially the API integration. I'm curious to see new community built extensions coming out of this. |
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cdevroe says:
I like the idea for sure, I just wonder if this feature would ever get any real traction with the end user? Will there be an interface built by Flickr to add machine tags to our photos?
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danbri says:
This is great stuff :) Still digesting what exactly it means in practice. Eg. whether I could set up default tag prefix URIs for my stream somehow so I don't need to declare xmlns:dc once for each photos. And wondering how, if at all, the Perl CPAN Flickr archiver will turn these tags into RDF...
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Tom (hmm a rosa tint) says:
cdevero: Look at the upcoming.org example, with the right interfaces I'm betting this will get a lots of traction.
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cdevroe says:
Tom: Oh, I have no doubt that this will be picked up by the "Web 2.0" community at large. In fact, it already has it seems. |
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Wooble says:
I'm not sure it makes much sense for the Flickr site to do anything more wrt adding machine tags than it does already; surely to do more than letting users enter them manually the site would need to know the details of every single namespace being used by anyone anywhere and then put some incredibly complex UI in to handle entering them?
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expensive road [deleted] says:
Awesome! I've been wanting something like this forever... Specifically, I want to add a machine tag which identifies the original photo on my computer without polluting my "tag namespace" |
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evilnick says:
Yay! |
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parallel flowers [deleted] says:
very nice just what i was waiting for |
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Kai Hendry says:
Any updates on getting some thing like a md5sum 'machine' tag? |
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destinyuk* says:
That is a great idea. Imagine being able to 'sync' all your computers in the real world with flickr, now that the upload limit has gone.
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Engerim says:
@drag: I thought the "secret" could be useful for that a while ago, but there was no conclusion in the end: |
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Wooble says:
It shouldn't be too difficult to build an application that tags all of your photos with something like checksum:md5=[whatever], but the bandwidth it would use could get unwieldy, as I assume you'd need to app to download all of your original photos to calculated the checksums on them.
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Engerim says:
@wooble: Downloading all and compared Is what I did ;-) |
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WeatherQuality says:
I noticed that when you specify 'extra=tags' in the search api, then machine tags are returned with all the ":" and "=" still present (unlike the old days when those characters were stripped out). This change broke my scripts, but it is a change for the better.
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striatic says:
now that there is a limit of 75 tags per photo, will machine tags be counted in the 75?
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straup says:
For the moment, yes. Machine tags will be counted toward the limit of 75 tags per photo.
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Tom (hmm a rosa tint) says:
@draq: What about designing a tool that will download the small preview image, work out the md5 and add it back as a machine tag. |
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Wooble says:
@Tom: I don't believe this would work for identifying which of your original images you've uploaded, as the preview image is generated at Flickr. You'd need to also have a way in your local image collection of associating the preview image with your original. It'd probably be far less work to assign a unique ID to each of your images before you upload them anywhere and have your Flickr upload software add a machine tag with that unique ID.
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Evan Prodromou says:
@straup: in your example about the Plateau (yay, Plateau Mont-Royal, BTW), you misspelled "quartier". "cartier" is a synonym and a proper name, like "Jacques Cartier". |
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Evan Prodromou says:
Argh. IMTS "homonym".
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straup says:
Evan Prodromou - Thanks! That's what I get for being away from home for so long...
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dajobe says:
Announcing: Flickcurl - C API to Flickr |
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Jef Poskanzer says:
I noticed a photo with geotags where flickr.photos.getInfo returns machine_tag="0" and yet when I go to the flickr page and view the photo, those tags are hidden as they should be. |
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PhotoGraham says:
I saw a comment somewhere that only new tags are treated as machine tags. I don't have a reference though.
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straup says:
Jef - |
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Jef Poskanzer says:
So the UI is ignoring the machine_tag attribute and instead deciding on its own whether a tag is machine or not? Maybe I should do the same.
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seLusava says:
The correct is geo:long, |
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PetroleumJelliffe says:
anyone know of a machine tag usage for airport codes? Can't seem to find any mention of it.
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shaky doctor [deleted] says:
I was once been tagged with a set of aero:* tags like the following: |
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Merkur* says:
oK, Can someone explain to me as if I was 8 yrs old, what do I gain by using |
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Mark Eichin says:
(stale, but since it's still open) The key is disambiguation - humans are good at it, machines aren't. In your example, "dlh" by itself, is pretty likely to be an airport, but the one near me is BED - if I'm looking for pictures of hanscom field (BEDford, MA) I will *never* find them with a search for bed. aero:airport=bed, though, is pretty clear. |
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stale copper [deleted] says:
aero:airport=eddl |
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WeatherQuality says:
When I retrieve machine tags (or any tags) using the Flickr API, then I seem to pull back a 'normalized' version of the tag. In particular, all letters seem to be converted to lower case, and punctuation and spaces are removed. This is a real pain. I'm using the photos.search api if it makes any difference. |
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matt says:
Does anybody have a workaround for this, or is this a known bug? |
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silentlennie says:
Triplets ? That sounds a lot like symantic web.
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hardbutnot says:
I've been attempting to use sort with machine tags in the same photos.search api. Seems the sort is working to date level ONLY, even though the original photos are timestamped. I suppose I could attempt to sort inside my application, but ... is this a known bug / is there a workaround? |
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Wooble says:
The "better" one is whatever works for you. |
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sopues says:
Think foaf+Machine tags+notes. Anyone? :)
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rachana1101 says:
Hey I am new to Flickr API, is it possible to add machine tag to the other users photos through API or its only possible after they give permission for auth_token??
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Silly Luis says:
rachana1101: Machine tags are treated like normal tags in this regard, so all the limitations to adding tags apply to them too.
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robert.jurjevic says:
May I ask if people are using machine-tagging on Flickr, and if there is an official or unofficial body which regulates the usage. |
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blech says:
Funnily enough, I've just written up the script I use to set machine tags for EXIF data. I use three namespaces: exif for purely EXIF information (eg focal_length, aperture), camera: for make and model, and file: if there's filename data in the EXIF (the Canon 450D adds it). |
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robert.jurjevic says:
Hello Paul, |
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katerossmail1 says:
Thanks a lot. This is one of the best posts, I have ever seen over Flickr.
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beancounterbean says:
I just want to confirm that the 'title' of |
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beancounterbean says:
A review of machine tags on w3.org: |
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Bogota Colombia says:
great news thank you so much ! |
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loupiote (Old Skool) pro says:
i find it really annoying that flickr allows the same predicate to have multiple values in one photo. |
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loupiote (Old Skool) pro says:
my "all tags" page is huge and extremely slow to load because i use machine tags on most of my photos (and i have many photos). |
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Jef Poskanzer says:
Necro! |
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WarzauWynn says:
Regarding case insensitivity, I've just noticed that machine tags that include a * appear to require lower case in the URL bar now. I just tested them in the API Explorer and they work case insensitively, but in the URL bar they require lower case. Not correct case, but specifically lower case, even if it's "incorrect". Very strange. |
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PierreFritsch says:
(Bug report) |
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Jef Poskanzer says:
Sounds like you're getting the canonicalized version of the tag but were expecting the raw version.
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PierreFritsch says:
Hi Jef, Sam, thanks for the fast answer! Is there any place where I can find what canonicalized and/or clean version means for tags? The "this is not a FAQ" above suggests that any ASCII character would be supported... (which would include characters such as "%" and "-") |
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Azchael says:
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y.shinkarev says:
I add machine tags to photo. |