Unlearning toxic hip-hop masculinity with Kiese Laymon and Jamilah Lemieux : Louder Than A Riot For Louder host Rodney Carmichael, interrogating misogynoir in hip-hop means confronting some hard questions — as a man, and especially as a father. As Rodney thinks about raising the next generation without replicating his mistakes, he's looking more closely at how hip-hop shaped his definition of masculinity. On this episode, something a little different: part meditation, part conversation — between Rodney and writers Kiese Laymon and Jamilah Lemieux — about beats, rhymes and life.

Like poppa, like son: Rodney Carmichael

Like poppa, like son: Rodney Carmichael

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Like poppa, like son.

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All season long, Louder has been looking inward at how a culture created by the marginalized became such a marginalizing force to so many within it. For host Rodney Carmichael, interrogating misogynoir in hip-hop comes with some questions for himself — as a man, a father and a long-time lover and critic of the culture.

As he thinks about raising the next generation without replicating his mistakes, Rodney deeply considers how to introduce his first love to his 3-year-old son. And that consideration means looking more closely at what hip-hop meant to him growing up, and how it shaped his views on masculinity.

On this episode, something a little different: part meditation, part conversation — between Rodney, Sidney and writers Kiese Laymon and Jamilah Lemieux — about beats, rhymes and life. Rodney traces his relationship with the rap dads who raised him from a kid growing up in the Dirty South, to a teenage naval enlistee stationed on the West Coast, and back home to Atlanta as a music editor contextualizing the culture years later. Now, as a parent, he wonders: Can rap be a tool he uses to cultivate a version of masculinity in his son that's less harmful — to himself and others?

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Audio story produced by Sam J. Leeds
Audio story edited by Soraya Shockley
Audio story engineered by Gilly Moon
Podcast theme and original music by Suzi Analogue, Ramtin Arablouei and Kassa Overall
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