Rocco: Mom Madonna is 'very strict but in a good way'

• Rocco, 12 has grown up
• Madonna's first studio appearance with Ellen
• Guess who goes in the dunk tank?

We've seen Lourdes Leon, Madonna's 16-year-old daughter, recently. She blogged about spending the summer folding underwear.

But Rocco?

It feels like we haven't seen the little guy, her son with ex-husband Guy Ritchie, for years. And yet, if you've been to one of Madonna's shows, Rocco, 12, has been on stage, too. Dancing.

Madonna introduced Rocco to Ellen DeGeneres for a show that will air Monday. "This is probably the first time I've seen you," Rocco tells Ellen.

Ellen then asks about Madonna. "Is your mother strict? Is she a good mother?"

Rocco: "Um, Yeah, she's a good mother but yeah, yeah."

Madonna: "But she's what?"

Rocco: "She's a good mother. Yes. That's all I have to say. She's very strict but in a good way."

Ellen: "How cool. You're on tour with your mother. She can't be that strict."

Rocco: "Um…"

Rocco: "I actually don't see that."

Madonna: "He's underneath the stage busy, doing things."

Ellen: "Good. That's best."

Ellen has been raising money for breast cancer awareness by dunking stars all month long. When she asked Madonna who should go in the tank, the Material Mom didn't hesistate. "Rocco..."