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Sharon Cummings

8 Months Ago

Usco Decisions And Legal Cases Regarding Copyright Fyi Thread Only

I thought it would be great for artists to have a thread with links to USCO decisions on copyright cases and other court decisions relevant to artists and photographers. NO DISCUSSIONS OR OPINIONS PLEASE. Just drop the links and we can all read for ourselves.

Saw this one today:

https://www.thefashionlaw.com/copyright-office-issues-latest-registration-refusal-for-ai-generated-artwork/

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Dean Harte

8 Months Ago

interesting read, thanks for the share!

 

J L Meadows

8 Months Ago

Excellent thread, Sharon!

 
 
 

Sharon Cummings

8 Months Ago

Earliest Versions of Disney’s Mickey Mouse and Minnie (and Tigger) to Enter Public Domain in 2024

https://time.com/6498261/mickey-mouse-disney-copyright-public-domain-minnie-tigger/

https://www.newser.com/story/343853/early-version-of-mickey-mouse-will-be-public-domain-on-jan-1.html

 
 

Sharon Cummings

8 Months Ago

UK will decide if image scraping is legal.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/06/getty_sues_stability_ai/

 

That's great info Sharon!

 

David Bridburg

8 Months Ago

This is in regards to content providers, all of us, I even have an app in the Play Store for my FAA Premium Site. I am buried but it is there. Or it was for years. Not sure now.

Since copyright is the economics of our content and this is a legal decision I will add it. For FAA to have an app it matters.

https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/epic-v-google-trial-verdict-a-win-for-all-developers?lid=cjnisb4i39t6&sessionInvalidated=true

 
 

J L Meadows

8 Months Ago

I don't like that Mickey is falling into the public domain, even though it's just the earliest version. I think that if a character's owners are still using the character, then they should have exclusive rights to it. But that's just me.

 

Sharon Cummings

8 Months Ago

REMINDER TO ALL...This is a FYI thread. This isn't a discussion thread. Just a post links to relevant cases/copyright issues. Read as you wish. Thanks!

 

John Emmett

8 Months Ago

 

Sharon Cummings

7 Months Ago

Thank you @JE....made me do some digging.

For those of us who are afraid to click on unknown videos (certain graphics and flashes trigger migraine in me and can trigger epilepsy in others)...I found this which is helpful regarding Stable Diffusion and various lawsuits:

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/federal-courts/judge-trims-copyright-lawsuit-against-ai-model-stable-diffusion/

 
 
 
 
 

Sharon Cummings

7 Months Ago

Some great links here! Keep em coming! @Susan...many of us use Dropbox....so huge thanks!

 
 

James Brunker

7 Months Ago

Great thread Sharon! Those in the UK especially might find this article useful: http://www.epuk.org/opinion/stolen-photographs-what-to-do It's a bit old but most of the info is still current. There's plenty of other info on the EPUK website, and dealing with infringments and using the UK's Small Claims court to demand payments from infringers are frequent topics in the members email discussions, (you dont have to be British or in the UK to sign up).

 
 

Sharon Cummings

7 Months Ago

As the OP, the intention: It's ok to explain what the link you are posting is about. Try not to interject your personal thoughts about it. (I've had to check myself at the door myself!) We want to avoid discussions and opinions in this thread because it's too easy for it to become an angry rant/attack thread. Keeping it sterile and businesslike is the way to go here for all of us.

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Sue Zipkin

7 Months Ago

Thank you so much for creating this thread, Sharon!

 
 

James McCormack

1 Month Ago

Brazil,
National Data Protection Agency prohibits Meta from using user data for AI on all its platforms.

https://www.youtube.com/live/LiTX0trSicc?si=AKm3lHc36VcovvXH

If/ when an English language version of this news becomes available , I will publish it in this thread.

 
 

Janet Marie

1 Month Ago

Thank you, Sharon for this thread.

Thank you, Lesa Fine for this link and post:

Per Lesa: "If you want to see if your images have been used to train AI, https://haveibeentrained.com just enter your name or company name and it will pull your images it has used. You can click the box and ask that the images not be used in the future as trainable images, but all that have been used cannot be reversed".

I found the work of these artists (choosing just a few) at that link. Abbie Shores, Sharon Cummings, my work, and my husband's art.

 

Renata Natale

1 Month Ago

first time found a bunch of mine there. thanks for the line Janet Marie

 

James McCormack

1 Month Ago

Brazil,
National Data Protection Agency prohibits Meta from using user data for AI on all its platforms.
English version from BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7291l3nvwvo

 

Ava Reaves

1 Month Ago

Thank you Janet. OMGosh, I found several and I mean several of my images + work from a local newspaper.

 

Edmund Nagele FRPS

1 Month Ago

Thank you Sharon and special thanks to Lesa, for posting the link to https://haveibeentrained.com where you can find out if any work of yours is being used for training AI. FAA is one of the worst culprits in my case and I have applied the tag DO NOT TRAIN to about 2000 of my images. I also use Alamy.com and none of my work turned up on https://haveibeentrained.com to be trained - shows that there is a way to protect contributors work to be used without permission.


 

Mike Breau

1 Month Ago

Thank you Janet!

Found 965 of my images; but only have 651 here and 9 in an art group i belong to.

Seems to also show many of my images on apparel and other goodies which seems weird?
Wonder about the accuracy.

UGH!

 
 

David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

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David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

Snippet from Susan's article

"The bill is designed to give content owners, such as journalists, newspapers, artists, songwriters and others the ability to protect their work, while also setting the terms of use for their content, including compensation. It also gives them the right to sue platforms that use their content without their permission or have tampered with content provenance information."

I really want to comment but won't.

 

Sharon Cummings

1 Month Ago

Thanks for all of the input everyone! That link haveibeentrained.com shows my work from EVERY POD I am on...thousands and thousands. I have no clue what can be done.

But I am hopefully for Susan's link post!

 

J L Meadows

1 Month Ago

Agreed! I hope the legislation passes. Finally some hope!

 

Drew

1 Month Ago

Thanks Sharon for sharing ;)

 

Ava Reaves

1 Month Ago

Sharon, I've sent you an email of a response I received after my attempt to opt of this. At this point I'm at a lost at what can be done. Thank you for starting this thread.

 

Shelli Fitzpatrick

1 Month Ago

Thank you for posting that Susan! it does give us some hope!

Adding: the haveIbeentrainedlink also shows all of my work I have ever posted online anywhere... including Instagram, Pinterest, Facebook (which I have been off of for years) FAA, as well as other POD platforms I was on. It makes me wonder what good it does to request not to be trained if they already have scraped all of those images? SIGH!!

 
 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

24 Days Ago

Yeah, I don't know how successful this is going to be, but at least it's something. Took 'em long enough. I also wonder how much the absolutely horrendous negative environmental impact AI has is going to affect "casual use." It might turn out that only certain industries that can provide carbon offsets have access to it in the future unless they can find some way to rein that huge cluster in.

 

Drew

24 Days Ago

It appears that the most significant aspect of Generative AI lawsuit impact will be if the generation of false information and false narratives are fully addressed with real punitive actions regarding mass manipulation of the populous.

Reference
"Several US state bars and courts have issued guidance, opinions or orders on generative AI use, ranging from responsible adoption to an outright ban."

 

James McCormack

20 Days Ago

New York Times on AI running out of data - July 19

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/19/technology/ai-data-restrictions.html

 

Drew

20 Days Ago

James, that is good news that a lot of online businesses are blocking scraping robot Crawlers.

from the NYT article;
"The study also found that as much as 45 percent of the data in one set, C4, had been restricted by websites’ terms of service. “We’re seeing a rapid decline in consent to use data across the web that will have ramifications not just for A.I. companies, but for researchers, academics and noncommercial entities,” said Shayne Longpre, the study’s lead author, in an interview."

Unfortunately, I believe big tech will just farm out mass numbers of people to get beyond the bot firewalls and target scrape as they see fit. It's like a shark frenzy for dominance for cyberspace.

Here's another relevant article:
"The Push to Develop Generative A.I. Without All the Lawsuits"
NY Times

Read the Terms of Use fine print when signing up for anything online!

 

James McCormack

20 Days Ago

Unfortunately you are most likely correct Drew. As copyright law is too slow to catch up, we need to take all possible measures, but that is for another thread.

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

12 Days Ago

The Copyright Office gettin' all up in arms over AI impersonations, calling outlawing them "urgent."

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/31/copyright-office-tells-congress-urgent-need-to-outlaw-ai-powered-impersonation/

 

David Bridburg

12 Days Ago

Drew robot txt files do not control the crawlers. Google and others choose to respect them or not to respect them

 

Drew

11 Days Ago

"Facebook Caught FAKING Numbers?! Triples Down on Money-Losing AI!"
https://youtu.be/QZ_K1ynA5Yw?si=QgSy8B9rLZ7GC-u0

BTW: I have see nowhere that the US courts have changed the status of Generative AI products as being Copyright Protected.

 

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