David Wood explains: “Politicians and the media often accuse Western critics of Islam of spreading Islamophobia (the irrational fear of Islam). When we turn to Islam’s most trusted sources, however, we find that Islamophobia has a different source—namely, Allah himself.”
Brennan Kingsland says
Those who know the truth about Islam are not Islamophobes…they are Islamorealists. I am an Islamorealist!
rubiconcrest says
Leaned a lot from this David and Robert and I will remember 3.151. But I don’t think we should ever accept the Islamophobia label. Because we are not Islamophobes. In fact I don’t know any people who are. I think we should always turn the argument back at those who throw out this term to have them define what they mean because they cannot defend Islam and lose will the argument.
mortimer says
rubiconcrest said ‘DON’T ACCEPT THE ISLAMOPHOBIA LABEL’. He is correct. Since ‘Islamophobia’ is a disingenuous slur and slander, it is not a respectable comment, but a psychological propaganda term.
In fact, people who are critical and analytical about Islam are the LEAST frightened by it, because they understand the flimsiness of the bases of Islam.
The term ‘Islamophobia’ was invented to describe Orientalism which Muslims generally think is a colonialist branch of study teaching that Muslim thought is inferior.
Orientalism is much more than that. It is a SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF ISLAM, rather than a RAH! RAH! study that promotes Islam … which is what Muslims are demanding.
Muslims object to any SCIENTIFIC STUDY or EVIDENCE that reveals the intellectual, moral or logical errors in Islam, its teachings or its practice.
Muslims want all comments about Islam to be propagandistic and proselytizing in nature.
Mark DeFord Eletion says
” In fact I don’t know any people who are. (islamophobes)”
It is muslims themselves who are the true islamophobes. They have a lifelong, unmitigated fear of islam. They are so afraid of islam that they will not say or even think anything contrary to it.
Nigel GFF says
So very true. Who would not be fearful with such a terminal apostasy rule hanging over ones neck?
eg. http://formermuslimsunited.org/apostasy-from-islam/
and the many posts at JW on the subject of apostasy.
Lydia says
Right! That is their slanderous propaganda cow-prodding label to usher the masses where they want them. I resist it all the time.
We are not ‘islamophobes,’ because that means an irrational fear of islam. Right now, that fear is not irrational. But even further than that, I am not afraid of islam at all. Why? Because the only one I ‘fear’ is God! In a good and healthy way. I fear no man, or any invention of man, not even the devil. We are ‘anti-islam,’ and ‘islamorealists,’ for good, logical, and rational reasons, and that is it. They are ‘islamonazis’ and ‘truthophobes’!
Terry Gain says
Sane people who are aware of Islamic doctrine and history have every reason to fear Islam.
Hari Singh says
If you Travel on a plane and have to go through a security check for fear of the plane being blown up-you’re an Islamophobe.
If you are afraid of hearing ”Allah hu Akbar, you’re an Islamophobe!
If you’re touring sites of interest in London, Paris, New York etc and are afraid of being stabbed or shot you’re an Islamophobe.
If you suddenly think any car going unusually fast might be a terrorist bent on killing you with his/her car you’re an Islamophobe.
if you’re afraid that your train might blow up you’re an Islamophobe.
Do you look up when you see an airliner flying low and think it’s about to crash into a building you’re an Islamophobe.
You fear that Muslims want to kill you and your family, you’re an Islamophobe.
If you support your government taking defensive measure against potential terrorists, you’re an Islamophobe.
If you think you now know more about Islam than you ever wanted to, you’re an Islamophobe.
If you had friends or relatives killed by Members of the religion of peace and you think they were motivated by Islam, you’re an Islamophobe.
The list goes on, there are hundreds of Believers to facilitate your fear.
Andy says
Thank you David Wood and Robert Spencer for the great video!!
Thanks to you guys I have got a good dose of TRUTHOPHOBIA!!!
Take care, Gentlemen.
Cheers!
Andy
Andy says
Truthophobia: The Fear and Hatred of Facts
https://www.chp.ca/commentary/truthophobia-the-fear-and-hatred-of-facts
WPM says
The way these two use logic is great, clear, and straight to the point. When Islamics use” logic” it has many turns bends, shadows more hidden corners ,missing pieces , dead ends ,contradictions , and falsehoods. Islam is always trying to put a round peg into a square hole it has to be done with the force of a hammer{violence} and the results are never pretty.
mortimer says
WPM points out that Muslims think differently: correct. They use dual logic in which one idea is always paired with another contradictory idea.
Islamic morality is dual as well. There is one morality for use among Muslims and a second separate morality for use against the kafirs.
The most common use of these double standards is in the use of TAQIYYA (sacred prevarication). All Muslims use taqiyya to defend and promote jihad to the detriment of kafirs.
Allah says that HE CASTS TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THE KAFIRS. However, the Muslim Brotherhood says the KAFIRS have no reason to fear Islam.
This is a perfect example of TAQIYYA.
eduardo odraude says
I hope we see more of this combination! Brilliant!
Mockingjay says
Brilliant indeed – these two make a GREAT comedy duo!
They should go on tour together – educating people through humour.
Learning through laughter – what could be better?
And anyway – there is a great need for good comedy, as the humour on the left is as good as DEAD.
ermom says
Saw this yesterday on YT. Terrific, funny, by two of my favorite scholars. They are great debaters, too. They use the Islamic sources! They prove their argument, WITH THE QUR’AN.
Kilfincelt says
Very interesting and well done. Let me add that studies of the Koran, hadiths, and the biography of Mohammad show that somewhere around 97% of the references to jihad are in the military sense.
Ann says
An old boyfriend called me an Islamophobe. What a silly word. I said that a phobia was a fear, usually used to mean a pathological, unreasoning fear. How can anyone quibble with that definition? So on the one hand, it would be unkind and unfair to criticize someone for being prey to an unreasonable terror, like of flying or of spiders. And the only reason the terror is unreasonable is because the worst doesn’t happen very often, but we all know that sometimes it does. In this case, the best you can do is say that any particular person is unlikely at this time to be murdered in a terrorist attack, but anyone who even leaves home to walk the dog or get groceries may be murdered in jihad. Unexpectedly. That’s the whole point. However, terrorist attacks have picked up momentum and are now coming fast and furious. No one can say that it’s unreasonable to be afraid of the popular and widespread ideology which motivates the terrorists. It’s just a contemptible attempt to shame us into silence as we whistle in the dark.
rubiconcrest says
Now when someone says I am an Islamophobe I can say, no, not at all. I just don’t think I should be terrorized for not believing in Allah. If they say, ‘but Muslims don’t believe that’. I can say perhaps individual Muslims don’t but the Koran says they should.(3-151)
eduardo odraude says
Terror is not the worst part of Islam. The worst part is what the terror seeks to establish: Islamic law, a totalitarian system. The self-censorship that most public figures engage in about Islam is largely imposed by terror (public figures are afraid to have a jihadist target painted on their backs). Terror enforces silence and is the leading edge of the imposition of totalitarian Islamic law, which commands the silencing of criticism of Muhammad and Islam.
The most important element in this battle is self-education. If we cannot win the war of ideas, then in the end we will not be able to win the battle with Islam, even though we have the most powerful military in the world.
mortimer says
“Islamophobia” was a term designed as a psychological terror weapon by the Muslims Brotherhood to advance their totalitarian cause by stigmatizing critics and silencing them.
The ‘Islamophobia’ smear distracts the public from the real issue of Islam which is its essential teaching of HATRED DIRECTED AGAINST KAFIRS which is called ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’.
Since ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’ is a compulsory, essential doctrine, ALL Muslims must ‘HATE’ kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’.
‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’ might reasonably be termed ‘KAFIROPHOBIA’.
If ‘Islamophobia’ is allegedly a bad thing, why is ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’ or KAFIROPHOBIA a good thing?
mariam rove says
Everyone should fear Islam. Period. I can tell you first hand I was born and raised one. There is nothing good in Islam and it is everything evil, backwards, misogyny,hatred of others(non muslims), jew hating, destruction, sleeping with animals, beating women, oppressing minorities, lying, deceptions, and the list goes on and on… so yes: fear Islam and do not let them in. m
Keys says
Thank you, mariam rove, for expressing your experience of your encounter with evil.
Some people of the lie are truly possessed by the greatest of all deceivers. As David Wood realizes and says in this video, if you are an atheist here (in Mohammadanism, Islam, Koran) is compelling evidence for a spirit world. Islam is evil.
gravenimage says
Thank you, miriam. Ex-Muslims know more about Islam than anyone else, and we always benefit from your sharing your insights.
PRCS says
Well, they don’t necessarily know more about it.
But they no longer have a reason to lie about it; to defend it.
mike9a says
When one has brain armed with logic and truth it produces brilliance like this. Hats off !
Carole says
Brilliant, I love this turn-about!
peter hinks says
great double act guys, keep up the fantastic work.
Voytek Gagalka says
Excellent analysis! But that only underscores absolute and crucial importance of philosophy in human life. Religion being a crude and ancient form of philosophy (before even the word “philosophy” was created), we must admit that Mohammedans were (and are) simply more consistent in applying it to their lives and THAT make them particularly so “victorious” throughout past centuries and that explains power of “spiritual progress.” Facing current philosophical (and thus moral) decadence in the West, it simply cannot be otherwise. Men will always “side” with philosophy which helps them to understand the world and surrounding universe, for good or evil, for truth or distorted falsehood. As important philosophy is for humans to survive, it is nowhere guaranteed that it will be proper one. To counter bad philosophy we have no choice but to substitute it with good (and superior) one. Nothing less will do.
mike9a says
>>…we must admit that Mohammedans were (and are) simply more consistent in applying it to their lives and THAT make them particularly so “victorious” throughout past centuries and that explains power of “spiritual progress.” <<
I respectfully disagree. Islam """"religion???/OPPRESSION"""" is like communism: if you do not think like us, you will disappear in darkens and be killed! there is absolutely nothing associated with progress even between apostrophes. There is nothing "…consistent in applying…" when one is under constant fear for its own or family members life …Religion without freedom to choose is not religion, it is OPPRESSION, nothing else! LOVE is unknown in OPRESSION of PEACE.
gravenimage says
Voytek, the West already has religions and philosophies that are far ethically superior to Islam.
Peacemaker says
The culprit of Islamophobia is Allah himself ! Lefties and Muslims should blame Allah instead of those who afraid of Islam.
duh swami says
Robert and David should take tha show on the road…
An Islamophobe is bot someone who doesn’t
‘t understand Islam…An Islamophobe is someone who understands Islam all too well…
Disgusted says
This video is ridiculous. These idiots conflate issues in ways that defy reason. Yes, these guys are attempting to scare people who have no reason to be scared. Not every Muslim is a Jihadist. Jihadist are criminals. They also did not bother to understand the context of the verses they were reading from the Koran. Using their method, anyone could take the Bible and make the same arguments about Christianity.
gravenimage says
“Disgusted” wrote:
This video is ridiculous. These idiots conflate issues in ways that defy reason. Yes, these guys are attempting to scare people who have no reason to be scared.
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You have not concerns over mushrooming Jihad terror attacks in the West and all over the world? There have been over 31,000 just since 9/11, and they are growing all the time as more Muslims gain access to the West.
More:
Not every Muslim is a Jihadist.
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Nor did David Wood or Robert Spencer say that they were. But all Jihadists are devout Muslims acting in the name of their creed.
More:
Jihadist are criminals.
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According to whom? The “filthy Infidels” may consider Jihad criminal, but devout Muslims consider it the most praiseworthy of acts, on the model of the “perfect man”, the “Prophet” Muhammed.
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They also did not bother to understand the context of the verses they were reading from the Koran.
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The “context” is that the diktats of the “uncreated” Qur’an are good for all time. To claim otherwise is un-Islamic. Are you an Islamophobe?
More:
Using their method, anyone could take the Bible and make the same arguments about Christianity.
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Not so. Unlike in the Qur’an, there is nothing in the New Testament enjoining Christians to rape non-Christians or to mass slaughter unbelievers.
Mo says
@ Disgusted
“Not every Muslim is a Jihadist.”
Provide the time stamp in this video where they said any such thing. I challenge you further – provide the time stamp in any of David’s or Robert’s videos on Islam where they’ve said any such thing.
“Using their method, anyone could take the Bible and make the same arguments about Christianity.”
You’ve never read the Bible. You know and care ZERO about it. (And you know it.)
Now, provide the evidence requested. That’s quite a serious accusation you have made about both these men. Provide your evidence. Do not ignore me. Do not play your games with me. Provide it.
Lydia says
False. You need to get educated on this stuff.
There is nothing in the Bible like that.
There is a thing called JUSTICE, which types like you know nothing about, so when someone who deserves it gets punished, you cry out as if some wrong has been done. All that you will find in the Bible is justice, and mercy, love and compassion. If a father never disciplines his erring sons, that is not love either. If criminals never go to jail, that is not justice either. Think about it!
duh swami says
An Islamophobe is someone who does not underestimate the enemy…
underbed cat says
Mariam rove, the voice of an ex-muslim, about their life living under sharia is the best support for the experts that warn about Islam. Experts who write accurately about sharia laws sourced from the Quran and get labeled as haters. What is not known to most west societies is the duty of muslims to act peaceful with no apparent goal other than tolerance, they are also burdened with the duty for those who can, to fight the nonbelievers called jihad ,which is kinetic fighting by the sword or other means. It is happening around the world, in countries that is preceded by mass muslim migration to foreign lands to establish communities before the warfare intent is apparent. Islamic organizations that create an infrastructure of support for denial of intent of influence and the goal to convert to bring sharia.Silencing of truth, by omission. The commands to use deception are found in the doctrine, the few peaceful verses are brilliantly recited by supporters to gain acceptance for the financial funding and planning of communities and mosques. That is a planned method to influence acceptance and as they work to achieve positions of authority to demand the writing of laws to criminalize free speech to prevent exposing doctrine of jihad. Ignorance of the doctrine is the main goal of the organizations and media exposure, with the future goal of subversion, conversion, internal strife warfare used for control that is never seen coming.
Lydia says
Right, and in short this tactic is called THE TROJAN HORSE.
This was a horse built for a fortified city as a ‘gift.’ Once safely inside the fortress walls, the wood would open up, exposing a hundred warriors who would wage war on an unsuspecting city and take it over.
Sound familiar?
I think it originated in the ancient city of Troy, hence the name ‘Trojan.’
There are so many strategies of stealth being employed, one must remain aware of such techniques lest one become victim to them.
gravenimage says
David Wood and Robert Spencer video: Allah: The Author of Islamophobia
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Great to see these two giants of the Counter Jihad–who both have a wry sense of humor–together.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
What a great tag team. I love how they take turns playing straight man!
gravenimage says
🙂
Mo says
@ gravenimage
“Great to see these two giants of the Counter Jihad–who both have a wry sense of humor–together.”
Right? Who else could make us laugh even while discussing a topic as serious (and often horrifying) as Islam? I love it!
Michael Copeland says
This is a very successful combination. There is a lot of mileage in this sort of dual presentation. Let there be many more, please.
Georg says
This is/was.. AWWWWWWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beyond hilarious seeing the Saudi flag (*puke*) next to something which couldn’t be nearer and dear to my heart — American baseball memorabilia; I’m only 30 but have a Ted Williams card from 1948 and even a Lou Gehrig Wheaties box cutout pre-WWII as, to me, it captures something magical about the American, and even human, spirit that was unprecedented and remains unrepeated and which needs to be retstoked. Hilarious seeing Robert and David point out that the argument is it’s “them” and not Islam… At what point do you start believing your lying ears and eyes? Thank you for all you do, American heroes.
And for the odd Islamist or anti-American spy perusing our correspondence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XDfXKp4nJE
Mo says
You guys are so adorable together!
Tom Evans says
Brilliant! Keep up the good work.
nicholas tesdorf says
This video is their most brilliant ever. The MSM will not be happy with the great logic instilled in this epic. What a great team these two men are!.
patriotliz says
WOW! What could be better than Wood and Spencer together….please take this show on the road! I would pay to see you guys together on stage or better yet, in a debate w/ Muslim scholars or w/ those who capitulate to IslamoFascism because they FEAR (are intimidated by) the repercussions from IslamoFascists.
Robert John Bennett says
Something happened yesterday that increased my respect for Robert Spencer and David Wood enormously.
What happened was this: I made a somewhat negative but articulate and serious comment on Islam as a response to an already negative article on a well-regarded website. Almost IMMEDIATELY I was slammed with three reactions that were not only illiterate, but also indicative of an “intellectual handicap” and somewhat violent.
I’m not used to sort of thing and so I found myself disturbed and slightly depressed by it.
Then I realized that THAT is what that men like Robert Spencer and David Wood have to put up with ALL THE TIME. I am now filled with admiration for the strength and courage and honesty of Wood and Spencer and everyone like them.
I don’t think we appreciate them nearly enough.
Schrödinger says
Let’s not forget the non existent Allah further reminds us, in K8.12, that he will “cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve”, and that all and sundry are in fact repeatedly admonished, one way or another throughout the Glorious Koran, as to just how and why everyone needs be terrified of Islam’s fictional deity’s wrath. It’s not by coincidence that Islam is an empire of fear.
“Islamophobia” is a fake, contrived, oxymoronic propaganda term deployed cynically, repeatedly and specifically to silence all criticism of Muslims and Islam and help halt all opposition to their jihad. A phobia is of course no more than an unwarranted dislike or exaggerated or irrational fear of something. This amusing and informative video helps underscore just how false, ironic, ludicrous and self incriminating is the very notion of “Islamophobia”. So Muslims (aided by their legions of unwitting apologists), attempt to expand the scope of it’s meaning to encompass alleged bigotry, prejudice and hatred of Muslims and Islam; in doing so they only further corrupt any validity a term described as a phobia could possibly have.
In his comment as to what the world should really be focusing on, Mortimer uses the term Kafirphobia. I prefer to use Kuffarphobia; it better matches the way Muslims say the word Kuffar (the non Muslim) and helps distinguish it from the unfortunate use by some South Africans in referring to blacks during the apartheid era as Kafirs. We’re yet to hear the egregious MSM even utter the word Kuffar, let alone Kuffarphobia. Therefore the issue needs to be forced with loud banners and placards at rallies and by expressing it much more frequently so that it becomes recognised and enters mainstream use, accelerating comprehension of the nature and threat Islam poses, and helping give the lie to this noxious term “Islamophobia”.