The media’s go-to Muslim darling and ex-terrorist self-promoter, Maajid Nawaz, is currently having a Twitter spat with Lily Allen (that virtuous pop singer who has promised and failed to give a room to even one single asylum seeker in any of her several properties, in spite of breaking down in tears on TV at Calais and apologizing to the world on behalf of the UK).
Maajid is using the usual buzzwords that keep the cash flowing in his direction: “the regressive left,” “Muslim fundamentalists,” and then he ends their debate by stating that Lily is discrediting the work of the three million British Pakistanis who are trying to address and improve the situation of the over-representation of Pakistanis in grooming gangs in the UK. In reality, however, the entire Pakistani communities knew, and still know, about the rape of white British girls. They are a close-knit community. They would have seen gangs of girls hanging around kebab shops. At no point did anyone try on-street intervention. They would have heard their friends bragging about who and how many non-Muslim girls they had raped last night. They would have heard about the rape parties where non-Muslim girls were drugged and passed around the men to be raped. The wives, too, would have heard these conversations on the telephone, in the next room, or in the shops where their husbands work. The taxi drivers who shuttled the non-Muslims girls back and forth to houses and hotels to be raped were also aware of what was going on.
Contrary to Maajid’s claims, none of these three million Pakistani Muslims chose to speak up. A handful of Ahmadiyyas protested on the streets, and the UK media were in a frenzy to let us know that Muslims oppose violence and rape. The media, as usual, neglected to note that Ahmadiyyas are not considered by mainstream Sunni Muslims to be real Muslims. They are considered apostates, who have every chance of being beaten and killed, just the same as any other non-Muslim does. Literature in the Muslim Council of Britain and Kennington mosque declare this sect to be apostates, and essentially fair game.
I remember a radio conversation in which a Muslima was being interviewed and she said that the entire Pakistani communities knew and still know what is going on. She was so sickened and appalled by what her community were doing to non-Muslim girls that she took her infant child and fled, for her safety, and in order that she could speak about it, from the South to the North of England. What a brave soul. A single mother, on her own, running into poverty and uncertainty in order that she could do one single radio interview.
Where are these three million Pakistanis Maajid is talking about? I’m seeing a handful on the TV who all exhibit the same tendency of bringing Jimmy Savile’s name into the conversation that they’re having about solving the Pakistani grooming gang problem. They’re not solving the problem so much as trying to shift the attention away from it. Jimmy Savile is a different problem to be solved. And we will solve it, and we won’t be called racist for doing so. We can’t solve all problems at once, and yet if we focus on Islamic rape gangs we’re racist and using the issue as a political tool. The same thing wasn’t said when the focus was on the Catholic Church. No one hesitated in attempting to get to the bottom and root cause of the pandemic of pedophile priests. Muslims tend to enjoy special status in relation to rape and grooming. If you talk about their behaviour, you’re a racist. Forget the lifetime trauma that the raped girls will never get over. Forget the ruined lives so that a bunch of animals could have five minutes of pleasure. Forget the suicide and drug addiction rates we will be seeing in later years as a result of Maajid’s community’s behaviour.
The other thing to note is that Maajid insists, with his spat on Twitter with Lily Allen (who apparently hasn’t yet been shamed enough to know when to keep her mouth shut), that he himself is a British Pakistani. Now how can this be? Unless you’re brought over to Britain after your formative years in Pakistan where you have been steeped in a cultural tradition, how can you be both things at once? Your roots might lie in Pakistan or Ireland, but if you’re brought up in the UK, then you are British – end of story. Maajid slips up at the end of their Twitter spat. He forgets to call himself a “Brit-Pakistani,” and he calls himself a “Pakistani” instead. Very Freudian.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Asia Bibi is Pakistani, you know, the Christian women whose death Muslim mobs in Pakistan are baying for? Yes, pure Pakistani, not even British-Pakistani our Irish-Pakistani, more Pakistani than the hyphenated ones. What are the chances that Asia Bibi’s sons might have ended up grooming, drugging and raping teenage girls?
Secondly, “the over-representation of Pakistanis in grooming gangs”. It’s not a quotation in the text, but does this accurately represent Maajid’s words? If so, then what is he really saying? Is this bracketed with the over or underrepresentation of, say, women in Parliament or Greeks in tiddlywinks or blacks in the professions, and so on? Is Maajid equating grooming gangs with, say, university places, or homes, areas where one might be concerned that certain groups of people, by virtue of whatever group they are, being disproportionately disadvantaged in terms of access to a social good? Or is this just some really clumsy virtue-signalling on Maajid’s part?
gravenimage says
Good post.
Carol the 1st says
That phrase “improve the situation of the over-representation of Pakistanis in grooming gangs in the UK” struck me as his “conflating” method of trying to be sure Brits feel smeared with the same “unifying” brush. Ugh. I’ve always distrusted Nawaz but really haven’t watched him much since I wouldn’t trust anyone who fails to reject Islam. A recent video however had me wondering if perhaps he has SECRETLY rejected Islam but knows outright rejection would sabotage whatever he hopes to accomplish in dealing with it – but does he really care either way or is he just a self-enriching prima donna? The fact that Sam Harris obviously admires him and has seen him at close quarters as they worked together on their book “Islam and the Future of Tolerance” makes you wonder.
Isn’t there a body of good people who feel we must needs work WITH the monoloth called Islam e.g. Nigel Farage and Aayan Hirsi Ali? Those interested in this character puzzle might want to take a second look at Nawaz. He was probably on his best behaviour for this interview and what he peddles on his radio show is probably the most telling but here it is:
Joe Rogan Experience #1107 – Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdPcC0zBIQ “p
alan Cheshire says
Having lived and worked in the villages and towns in Pakistan from Karachi to Islamabad i have seen the horror of that country,the amount of abuse is beyond anything you can image even after my self and the Catholic sister raided a film studio producing pawn with children and baby’s after a week the Kuffers were released with the help of a local politician and the police.
Go to any market in any city or town you will find cd of child sex ive even seen a CD of the young white girls from the uk. In Islamabad theirs a diplomatic Blue Zone there each Provence has there own guest house i stayed in the Kashmir house after a minister drugs booze and little boys were being cleared out ive also worked in a special needs house in Lahore were little girls who were paralysed being sold as sex slaves by the brother in law only being rescued once again by the brave sisters
isaac says
thanks for sharing that
gravenimage says
Horrible.
Maria Sederholm says
Thank you. Valuable information. Awful to hear though. Do you expand on it somewhere? I’d be interested to know more of your experiences. As I’m sure many others would too.
mortimer says
‘MAGIC’ Nawaz ‘magically’ believes that Islam can be reformed and made into NEW-IMPROVED-NON-JIHADIST ISLAM.
Even though reforming Islam is impossible … ‘MAGIC’ Nawaz found a GREAT JOB getting money for pretending that Islam is peaceful.
He didn’t find in the PRIMARY ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS. ‘MAGIC’ Nawaz pulled that right out of his HOO-HA.
mortimer says
‘Magic Nawaz’ didn’t find PEACEFUL NON-JIHADIST ISLAM’ in the primary Islamic source texts … ‘MAGIC’ Nawaz pulled that right out of his keister.
Maria Sederholm says
Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed that. More please!
Walter Sieruk says
Those ,hideous despicable Muslim gangs in England and commits rapes of the British girls and women are evil By their ganging up against females those Muslims are cowards .Likewise, because they commit rapes they are also heinously vile. Those Muslim hooligans who live in the UK with their violent and despicable lawless behavior should the governmental law enforcement agencies come down on heinous ruffians with strong might. This is because they cannot be reasoned with .They will not respond to either reason or logic. Those hoodlums will only understand the language of brute force. So that is the language that need to and should be used on those evil characters. This statement is upheld by and in the Bible, Romans 13:1-5. Furthermore, that gangs of hooligans, be they Islamic or not, are nothing new or original .Such violent bands of hooligan’s go as far back in history as to ancient times. For example, In the Bible in Proverbs 4:16,17 it reads “For they do not sleep unless they have done evil; and their sleep is taken away unless they make someone fall .For they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence.” [N.K.J.V.] Nevertheless, those villains aren’t going to get away with their evil actions. It will, sooner or later all come back down on them, and come back down on them hard. As is the old saying which is “What goes around comes around.’ The reason that we may all know that this saying is true is because it’s confirmed in the Bible. Which informs its reader “For whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.” Galatians 6:7.
Walter Sieruk says
The appropriate way for the police to handle the hostile, vicious and violent Muslim hooligans rapists is by the Law enforcement officers using the strong power of force . This is because the language of brute force is the only language those Muslims thugs will understand. For those lawless Muslim ruffians who compose Islamic street criminals will not respond to reason of logic. In other words, to even try to reason with those Islamic character is like trying to teach algebra to a rabbit .
Anne Smith says
Unfortunately the “law enforcement” officers do not want to engage with any of the Pakistani community, let alone on a rough handing basis.
That might mean they are “racist” and we wouldn’t want that.
If they stop them having their fun it might cause riots and that would be a breach of the peace.
Better to look the other way, and stay in front of the computer searching for hate speech.
Bowen G says
READ THE GUARDIAN’S ”
“Maajid Nawaz’s with-us or against-us mindset is out of touch with reality”
Nawaz Hanif
The prospective Lib Dem candidate and Quilliam Foundation co-founder’s tweeting of a cartoon of Jesus and Muhammad is more about PR than ‘defending Islam’
Maria Sederholm says
When did he tweet a cartoon of Jesus & Muhammad? Recently? If you remember, please let me know. If you can find the tweet please send it to @Wordofbeak
Malcolm Jackson says
And Nigel Farage thinks Tommy Robinson should be in prison for reporting on Muslim rape gangs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j5uySpDo20
A_M_Swallow says
The rape gangs prove that anti-racism has failed in Britain. Such defence of other cultures needs to be called stupid and sad.
Sam says
Well let’s face it. If a person says he/she is a muslim there are two explanations. He/She is either ignorant or evil. Either case I would stay away from that person as they do damage to our freedom knowingly or by ignorance. Result is the same that they enable Jihad.
The cult of Islam should not be allowed in western countries. We have no other choice If we want to solve the religion of peace problem for good.
Mr. Maxwell S. J. Fenton says
I’m a plain working class Englishman but even I know how to address and improve the situation of the over-representation of Pakistanis in grooming gangs in the UK.
They can stop raping our children. Simple.
IanB says
Neither of them is to be trusted until they renounce Islam.
A Muslim, by definition, cannot be anti-jihad.
Jihad, including violent jihad against “infidels”, is a non-negotiable requirement for Muslims (Q.8:39).
Dawne says
Essentially they all still consider themselves Pakistani, whether born in Britain or not. The British citizenship is just a convenient route to getting benefits and housing etc.
gravenimage says
So true.
RichardL says
Hi graven, yes, he is sketchy. He spent his stag party with friends in a strip club getting pissed and on TV he looks like an academic from the 1950s. He is different from us in that he is still a Muslim. There are Muslims who are good people because they simply ignore the evil in islam and if Maajid and Muhammad (who can be seen singing Irish songs venerating Mary, Mother of God on the internet) can help more away from that evil idea, I am al for it.
gravenimage says
Richard, I have no problem with Nawaz going to a stag part and drinking, and even less so with his looking like a rumpled academic–why would I?
If you look at the stories I linked to, he does quite a bit of apologia for Islam–and is quite inconsistent even in condemnation of Jihad.
Sure, there are Muslims who ignore the evil of Islam–but who also do little or nothing to actually oppose Jihad. If the best we can hope for is Muslims being agnostic about Jihad, this is actually a serious problem.
isaac says
maajid touched that woman without her consent. he’s a sexual molestor.
Carol the 1st says
Aayan didn’t complain. He can live to try again.
terry bare says
This article exposes another classic example of a wolf in sheep’s clothing, …. Mr. Nawaz.
Carol the 1st says
I’ve just watched 3 or 4 of his LBC shows where he’s quite effective at hassling in-calling muslims and not letting them off the hook. Being muslim and a former extremist himself he has a certain authority and experience. He tries to make liberal, democratic points with these people and he is not off-put by their devious doggedness when he asks direct questions. I think it’s possible the man has evolved and my interest in him and his rather unique position and method has been rekindled. In a recent program Maajid confronts a handful of Islamic “issues”:
Maajid Nawaz vs Islamic Salafi Apologism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR_WxWWLek