Mehdi Hasan is a Muslim journalist, British-born, who has been in the news this week for asking Rep. Ilhan Omar, in a 2018 interview, a question about “jihadist terrorism,” words he pronounced with skeptical contempt, to which she replied by saying that “white men” were the bigger threat. But there is good reason to be as concerned about Hasan as about Omar. Hasan presents himself as an independent thinker, critical when necessary of Islam and of Muslims, and yet he is also a frequent, and sly, defender of the faith and its Believers. The fact that his main outlet is Al Jazeera, the Qatari-owned propaganda outlet, where he appears regularly, should give his Western admirers pause. Several months ago he wrote a piece about the Sultan of Brunei, and the punishment he not long ago approved — death by stoning — for those convicted of adultery or homosexual acts.
Here is Hasan’s tale:
I WAS 13 years old when I first heard of the Sultan of Brunei. The absolute ruler of a tiny, oil-rich kingdom in Southeast Asia, Hassanal Bolkiah was the subject of a much-discussed TV documentary by the British filmmaker Alan Whicker in 1992. As a young teenager, sitting in front of the television, I was in awe of this Muslim king. He was the richest man in the world! He earned a quarter of a million pounds every hour! He owned more than 150 cars!
Today, however, I’m filled not with awe but with disgust. Brunei has become the first country in Southeast Asia to impose capital punishment for “crimes” such as adultery and gay sex.
LGBTQ Bruneians, who are in particular danger, have been fleeing the kingdom. Can you blame them? According to the Associated Press, “Homosexuality was already punishable in Brunei by a jail term of up to 10 years. … But under the new laws, those found guilty of gay sex can be stoned to death or whipped. Adulterers risk death by stoning too, while thieves face amputation of a right hand on their first offense and a left foot on their second. The laws also apply to children and foreigners, even if they are not Muslim.”
This is barbarism, plain and simple. How can a punishment rightly described as “cruel and inhuman” (U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet), “vicious” (Amnesty International), and “medieval” (Human Rights Watch) be considered appropriate or acceptable in the 21st century? Has the Sultan — who isn’t exactly a paragon of moral rectitude himself — taken leave of his senses?”
Does Mehdi Hasan object to the death penalty for homosexuals, or does he only object to death by stoning? If it is the former, why does he not mention that ten of the eleven countries that punish homosexual acts with the death penalty are Muslim countries (and the 11th, Nigeria, does allow the death penalty in its Muslim-majority north)? Apparently a great many Muslims believe that death is the appropriate punishment for such acts. Where do they get this idea? Mehdi Hasan knows where: why doesn’t he provide the Qur’anic verses, and Hadith stories, about the people of Lot and their punishment? Why does Mehdi Hasan also fail to mention the steady killing of homosexuals in Iran, who are hung from cranes? Or the homosexuals who can be decapitated in Saudi Arabia? Why this selective indignation? Is the Sultan of Brunei’s penalty for homosexuals — death by stoning — which is the same punishment Allah visited upon the people of Lot — so much worse than hanging in Iran or decapitation in Saudi Arabia?
And what about the amputation of the right hand as punishment for a first theft, and a left leg for a second, which Mehdi Hasan appears to find “barbaric”? Where does he think such a punishment comes from? He knows the relevant Qur’anic verses;
‘The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter (Quran 5:33)
“As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, fr their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.”(Qur’an 5:38)
It is likely that 5:33 was being followed, in the belief that theft constitutes one kind of “mischief,” not enough to warrant “execution or crucifixion,” but enough to trigger the punishment of “cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.” Such double amputations, of the right hand and left foot, have been carried out in Somalia, Iran, and Afghanistan.
But Mehdi Hasan doesn’t mention either of these verses. He would prefer to pretend that these “barbaric” punishments are not to be found in the Islamic texts, but are the invention of the cruel and unrepresentative Sultan of Brunei.
Then again, shamefully, Brunei isn’t alone. A recent study by the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association found that there are already six countries that explicitly make homosexuality a crime punishable by death. And, as a Muslim, it is a source of deep frustration for me that 5 out of the 6 are Muslim-majority countries — Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Sudan, and Somalia — and in the sixth, Nigeria, the death penalty is imposed only in Muslim-majority or Muslim-plurality states. According to ILGA, there are also 70 member states of the United Nations that “criminalise consensual same-sex sexual acts” — and, again, Muslim-majority countries are disproportionately represented on that list. In fact, homosexuality is illegal in the vast majority of the world’s Muslim-majority nations, from Senegal in West Africa to Malaysia in Southeast Asia to Qatar in the Middle East. (Full disclosure: I host two shows on Al Jazeera English, which is funded by the government of Qatar. According to the Qatari penal code, gay sex can result in a prison sentence.)
It is easy to blame all of this rampant, state-sponsored homophobia in the Muslim-majority world solely on Islam. Indeed, the prominent British atheist, scientist, and Islamophobe, Richard Dawkins, cited Brunei’s barbaric new law in order to compare my faith to cancer.”
Mehdi Hasan demonizes the supreme rationalist and islamocritic, Richard Dawkins, as an “Islamophobe,” and does not answer Dawkins’s main complaint about the new laws in Brunei, which is that the Sultan believes that the Qur’an itself commands execution for homosexuals: “To obey Allah’s command as written in the Quran.” So, Dawkins tweeted, “you’d better not object or you’ll be accused of Islamophobia & Cambridge will de-platform you.” (Dawkins was recently uninvited from giving a talk at Cambridge.)
Yet the truth is that nowhere in the Quran is a legal punishment prescribed for the sin, or the “crime,” of homosexuality. There are no authentic reports in any of the Muslim books of history of the Prophet Muhammad punishing anyone for same-sex acts. In fact, even many Muslims today are unaware that the Ottoman Empire decriminalized homosexuality in 1858. Got that? One hundred and nine years before the U.K. and 145 years before the United States, the biggest Muslim-ruled empire on earth decreed that there should be no penalty for being gay.
No, there are no reports of Muhammad punishing anyone for same-sex acts. But there are reports of Allah doing so. Isn’t that more important? Mehdi Hasan claims that nowhere in the Qur’an is a “legal punishment” prescribed for the sin of homosexuality. But when Allah himself describes the punishment He inflicted on the People of Lot, this is much more significant than any “legal punishment” that might be inflicted by mere mortals. When Hasan remarks that “nowhere in the Qur’an” is there a legal punishment of homosexuality, he is deliberately ignoring the fact that there is in the Hadith, particularly in a certain hadith in which “the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462). Muhammad is not then inflicting that punishment on anyone, but he is commanding that Muslims in the future, “as a legal punishment,” execute both persons guilty of homosexual congress.
To be clear: The consensus position among mainstream Islamic scholars, whether Sunni or Shia, is that same-sex relations, like extramarital or premarital relations, are a sin. There is, however, no consensus among scholars about any earthly punishment for committing this sin. Don’t take my word for it — ask Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, described as “arguably the West’s most influential Islamic scholar.”
If there is no “consensus” among mainstream Muslim scholars about “any earthly punishment” for same-sex relations why do ten Muslim countries mandate the death penalty? They must have found some textual justification in the Qur’an or Hadith, or both. And in fact they do. It is in the condemnation of the “people of Lot” (who appear in several places in the Qur’an). As Mehdi Hasan stated in 2013, “The Quran, after all, explicitly condemns the people of Lot for “approach[ing] males” (26:165) and for “lust[ing] on men in preference to women” (7:81). Why is he silent now about those verses? Here, to remind Hasan, is the longest Qur’anic passage about homosexuals, which includes the method of punishing them:
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain of stones. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84) “We” here is Allah, describing the death, by stoning (“a rain of stones”), that He himself inflicted on the People of Lot.
And there is a hadith in which Muhammad specifies that the proper penalty for homosexuality is execution: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
There is nothing ambiguous about that hadith. The textual authority is on the side of those Muslims who favor the death penalty. That Mehdi Hasan opposes the death penalty is welcome, but his pretending to Unbelievers that the Islamic texts do not support the death penalty is unacceptable taqiyya. If he wants to halt the infliction of the death penalty for homosexual acts, he must be willing to discuss, and not ignore, what Allah did, and Muhammad commanded.
To point the finger only at Islam, or even at Islamists, doesn’t explain why Egypt under President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who came to power after toppling the Muslim Brotherhood and is now a hero to Ivanka Trump, has violently cracked down on LGBTQ communities; or why Muslim men are fleeing a “gay purge” in secular Chechnya.
El-Sisi is against the Muslim Brotherhood, but has always been a devout Muslim, and it is because of his faith,and nothing else, that he has “violently cracked down on LGBTQ communities.” Mehdi Hasan wants us to find a contradiction (i.e., if El-Sisi is against the Brotherhood, then Hasan assumes he must not be devout, and his opposition to homosexuality can’t be connected to Islam, but must have some other basis) where there is none.
Homophobia is not the monopoly of any one country, culture, or religion. Catholic-majority Brazil is believed to have the highest LGBTQ murder rate in the world. Orthodox-majority Russia passed a “gay propaganda law” in 2013. Here in the United States, anti-gay hate crimes are on the rise and, according to Rebecca Isaacs, executive director of the LGBTQ rights group Equality Federation, the Trump administration has “done so many things that are as anti-LGBTQ as you could possibly be.” The president has even joked that his vice president wants to “hang” all gay people. (As my friend Owen Jones, perhaps Britain’s best-known progressive and gay commentator, has observed, “If you only talk about LGBTQ rights to bash Muslims, you don’t care about LGBTQ rights.”)
Mehdi Hasan offers his Tu-Quoque, beginning with the murder rate for LGBTQ in Brazil. But those are extra-judicial killings, that reflect not a barbaric law, as in 10 Muslim countries, but the criminal acts of individuals who are then prosecuted as murderers. As to those “anti-gay hate crimes” in the United States, which are similarly prosecuted, they are hardly equivalent to a criminal code that puts homosexuals to death. No one is “bashing” Muslims when they criticize the Sultan of Brunei, or the death penalty for homosexual acts found in nine other Muslim countries. Does Mehdi Hasan want those countries to be exempt from criticism because they are “Muslim”? Why should Muslim countries be given a pass? Can Mehdi Hasan really not see the difference between hate crimes against homosexuals carried out by individuals who are then punished, and laws by which people are put to death legally for committing homosexual acts?
For those of us who are Muslims, however, there is no point denying that queer people do face particular abuse, discrimination, demonization, and violence across the Muslim-majority world. It is long past time for us to engage in a frank discussion about our attitudes toward gay people in our midst. We have to find a way to try and reconcile our beliefs — and Islam, like Judaism and Christianity, has traditionally seen homosexuality as a sin — with the reality of life in modern, pluralistic, secular societies in which gay people cannot be wished away or banished from sight. Personally, as a practicing Muslim, I have had to think long and hard about this over the years, and I have also written before about my own homophobia when I was younger and the lack of compassion and understanding displayed by some in my own community.
“It is long past time for us [Muslims] to engage in a frank discussion about our attitudes toward gay people in our midst” writes Mehdi Hasan, who, however, remains silent on the Islamic texts that do not just see “homosexuality as a sin,” but clearly call for killing homosexuals: “And We [Allah] rained upon them [the people of Lot, who engaged in homosexual acts] a rain of stones.” (Qur’an 7:80-84). “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” Mehdi Hasan knows those verses about the People of Lot and what Allah did to them, and he knows that hadith in which Muhammad declares what should be done to those who do “the action of the people of Loot” — that is, homosexual acts. But he’s not going to mention them. He hopes you never find out about them. How can Hasan ever hope to have that “frank discussion” about homosexuality in Islam that he promises, but does not deliver, and cannot, as long as he refuses to recognize in the Qur’an and hadith the sources of that punishment he rightly calls “barbaric”?
Muslims, though, are not a monolith. In the United States, the majority (51 percent) of Muslims now support a legal right for gay couples to marry, compared to a majority (58 percent) of white evangelical Christians who remain opposed. There are a number of prominent Muslim-majority countries, from Turkey and Indonesia to Bosnia and Kosovo, where it isn’t a crime to be gay (though, of course, homophobic prejudice and discrimination still abounds).
Mehdi Hassan wants Muslims in America to be compared to the Christian denomination that is most hostile to homosexuality — evangelicals — to make Muslims look good. He claims that 51% of American Muslims now support same-sex marriage, while only 42% of Evangelicals approve. But why not compare Muslims instead with Jews (77 percent approve of same-sex marriage), the unaffiliated (80 percent approve) and Unitarians (an overwhelming 97 percent)? Then they don’t appear quite so tolerant. He is still avoiding any discussion of the main issue: what do the Qur’an and Hadith say, quite clearly, about punishing homosexual acts? If some Muslims, living in the West, have chosen to ignore what is found in the texts, for there is no other way they could support same-sex marriage, Mehdi Hasan should say so. Instead, he chooses to conceal those texts.
And, in an interview on the Deconstructed podcast in February, the soon-to-be prime minister of Malaysia, Anwar Ibrahim, told me that he plans to repeal his country’s anti-gay laws. Ibrahim, one of the most respected voices in the Muslim-majority world who was himself imprisoned on trumped-up charges of sodomy, said the laws are “archaic,” a hangover from the days of British colonialism, and “nothing to do with Islam or Christianity.” For Ibrahim, “you cannot condemn people for their sexual orientation” because “your sexual orientation is your business.” However, he added, “it will take time” for attitudes to “evolve.”
The fact that this or that Muslim political figure repeals anti-homosexual laws still does not deal with the fact that as long as Muslims regard the Qur’an (and certain Hadith) as immutable, those who believe homosexual acts should be punished by death will have the texts on their side. Passing over those texts in silence, as Mehdi Hasan does, will not make them disappear. And as long as most Muslims treat the Qur’an as the word of Allah, homosexuals will be under constant threat of being punished — and in some countries even killed — for their behavior.
Here’s the problem though: Gay Bruneians no longer have time on their side. Their Muslim-majority neighbors have stayed silent while Brunei’s Western allies, such as the United States and the United Kingdom, have issued the most tepid and halfhearted of condemnations. It has been left to Hollywood celebrities to publish scathing op-eds and launch a loud boycott campaign. So it’s time for the rest of us — Muslims and non-Muslims alike — to make some noise too, on behalf of members of a persecuted minority group who are in genuine fear for their lives.
Remember, this isn’t a debate about Islamic theology or ethics. This isn’t about changing sincerely held religious beliefs. We should all, of course, be free to believe what we want, but while I can’t and don’t speak for other Muslims, I’ll tell you this for free: Stoning innocent people to death is not my definition of Islam.”
“Stoning innocent people” to death is not what what Muslims like the Sultan of Brunei claim to be doing. People who have behaved like the “people of Lot”– that is, like homosexuals — are not considered “innocent” and should be treated as the “People of Lot” were treated by Allah: “We rained down on them a rain of stones.” (Qur’an 7:80-84).
And of course the debate is about “Islamic theology.” The only reason the Sultan of Brunei is now going to enforce the penalty of death by stoning for homosexual sex is because of what is to be found in the Qur’an and hadith on the subject. The meretricious Mehdi Hasan, who has made an amazing career out of convincing audiences that he is bravely challenging Muslim orthodoxy, even as he appears as a dutiful journalist for Al Jazeera, has struck an attitude of outrage at the Sultan’s harsh new law (he was once, as he never tires of telling, an “Islamophobe” himself), but he has done nothing to further the understanding of why homosexuals in all but a handful of Muslim countries face severe punishment, including long prison terms, lashings, and even — in ten countries — death.
mortimer says
BIGGEST THREAT ??? Jihad wins as the biggest threat. No contest.
As of today: 35,396 terror attacks since 9/11, at least 200,000 killed by jihad-terrorism in the past 18 years since 2001.
Last 30 days: 32 jihad attacks, 177 killed 231 wounded, 14 countries
June 2019 (Ramada) Jihad Report: 139 attacks, 1135 killed 638 wounded, 17 blasts, 27 countries
infidel says
Animal Muslims brutally slit throat of Hindu boy in Pakistan in Halaal style..
https://twitter.com/khushi2318/status/1155075235592323072
gravenimage says
Horrifying, Infidel.
Cicero says
It is not surprising that the United Kingdom is the country of birth of the two most prominent jihadis- by- pen Mehdi Hassan and his equally brilliant and equally mendacious co – religionists Maajid Nawaz.
Both spawned by the great welfare state of Islamophilic Great Britain
Tad Pringle says
Well spotted. Through ‘Taquiya’, they can mix Muslimness with Intersectionality (to fend off criticism from other aggreived minorities) and pro-LGBTIQALPHABET mewling (to keep lucrative media contracts with the woke-MSM) They are transparent racketeers. We have a clone in Australia called Walleed Ali.
CRUSADER says
Dhimmirats running for presidency in USA stated on stage that Climate Change is the greatest threat….
RonaldB says
I kind of find the article not completely convincing. Trying to say that Hasan only dislikes the stoning aspect of the death penalty for gays is just plain stupid. Reading through the Hasan quotes shows clearly Hasan disapproves of the death penalty itself for homosexuals.
The strongest case it makes is the “hadith in which Muhammad specifies that the proper penalty for homosexuality is execution:” Fitzgerald doesn’t mention if that is a reliable or unreliable hadith, but that makes a difference in its force of law. By the way, sharia law is quite clear on the implications of the Quran and Hadith. Does sharia law, as expounded by commentaries, condemn gays to death? I’m not too impressed that Allah burned homosexuals or whatever. Just because Allah did it doesn’t mean humans have to. Christians often make the point that simply because god immerses sinners in a perpetual sea of fire, it doesn’t mean humans have a right to do the same thing. The “give Caesar what is Caesar’s and God what is God’s” concept that has no equivalent in sharia law.
Hasan seems to say that because there are some Muslim-majority countries that do not mandate a penalty for homosexuality implies that homosexuality is not a crime under Islam. How many Islamic states, as opposed to Muslim-majority states, tolerate homosexuality? I think you’ll find that virtually every state that declares itself an Islamic state makes homosexuality illegal.
There is a good reason why Muslim radicals in non-Muslim countries, like Ilhan Omar and Rashid Talib, support “gay rights” so strongly. The fetish on making homosexuals a protected class, and institutionalizing gay marriage in law, is part of the cultural Marxist destruction of Western culture, a destruction that tracks the first stage of jihad very closely. Notice I am not advocating criminalizing gay acts or tolerating violence against gays. I am speaking against making homosexuality a protected class.
Even with gay marriage, there is only one aspect of a gay marriage that couldn’t be replicated by legal agreements between gay partners. That aspect is the allocation of government benefits, such as social security and disability payments. Those are problems that could be solved outside of a formal marriage.
Why am I against gay marriage? Because the formalization of gay marriage as a parallel and equally important institution as heterosexual, child-oriented marriage, is destructive of the Western culture.
So, Hasan is putting on his cultural Marxist hat when he wants not only universal tolerance for homosexuals, but special privileges and recognition of homosexual marriage. The real question is, what happens if Hasan and his ilk are successful, and Western countries not only become Muslim majority, but institute sharia law?
gravenimage says
Pious Muslims slaughter homosexuals all over the world on the tenets of Islam, as this poster well knows.
RodSerling says
Ronald,
“I kind of find the article not completely convincing. Trying to say that Hasan only dislikes the stoning aspect of the death penalty for gays is just plain stupid.”
On the contrary, it is prudent. It would require an encyclopedia-length response to point out all of the false and misleading aspects of Hasan’s article. Hugh has pointed out several of his misleading lines. Hasan has misrepresented the Qur’an, the Hadith, Islamic law, the present state of laws in the Muslim world, the views of Egypt’s al-Sisi, and more. Why then would we expect him to be honest, forthright, and accurate in revealing to the non-Muslim world his own private views? Or, why should we have confidence in what he says now about, or around, homosexuality?
Long-time Jihad Watch readers have seen over the years, time and time again, where initially a Muslim apologist/polemicist will appear to oppose some harsh aspect of Islam that clashes with modern Western values, but then when pressed, or when addressing a different audience, endorses, or at least fails to condemn unequivocally, those punishments. In justifying his deception to himself or to other Muslims about his own views–if he is in fact lying about them here–Hasan appears to have carefully worded his statements to avoid directly condemning punishment for homosexuality, while making statements that sound, initially to those who are unfamiliar with him, very much like condemnations. But even in this article, he doesn’t oppose the idea that homosexuality is sinful.
It’s possible that Hasan has had a change of heart about homosexuals, and no longer considers them as bad as “out-and-out kafirs,”* but I’m skeptical that he has. It looks more like a professional move to be in line with the leftist media orgs that he works for. Plus, deception of non-Muslims is allowed in Islam. As you suggest, he may well be just playing the cultural Marxist, as this group has the same goal as Islam: destruction of the West.
*If you look into his history you can find him making a fire-and-brimstone tirade in which he blasts atheists (citing the Qur’an, calling them “without intelligence” and “worse than cattle”) and other disbelievers, and homosexuals. (This, coming from a man who says he believes that Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse–a standard Islamic belief). After the video surfaced several years ago, he issued some inadequate weaselly-worded non-apology, only for the comments about (the politically-protected class) homosexuals, saying (as he does in this most recent performance above) that Muslims need to re-examine their views etc., but there was then and is not now any clear unambiguous disavowal of his former views. In Hasan, we are dealing with someone who without a trace of embarrassment said he believes Muhammad literally flew to heaven on a winged horse.
Even if Hasan has had a change of heart, how long would that change last if he came under an Islamic authority, addressing a Muslim population?
To illustrate the slipperiness of Islamic apologists, take a look at this statement by Hasan [quoted in Wikipedia]:
“In April 2010, Hasan wrote a piece condemning the controversial Islamic advocacy of the death penalty for apostasy in the New Statesman.[26] He states that “The sharia (or Islamic law), it is claimed, sanctions the death penalty for any adult Muslim who chooses to leave the faith, or apostatise. This is an intellectually, morally and, perhaps above all, theologically unsustainable position.” ”
Of course, it is indeed literally true that within Islamic law, developed in the centuries after the initial conquests, not just any adult Muslim who leaves the faith is punished with death. First, Hasan is Shia, and in the main school of Shia Islam the adult female is given a different punishment (also harsh) than death. Second, in three of the four Sunni schools, the adult male or adult female of sound mind are to be put to death, if the apostasy is public, and they do not repent within a specified period, provided that the execution or its timing would not present Islam in a bad light. (Iran and Saudi Arabia both have altered the timing of punishments or postponed them in response to pressure from the West, while not abolishing the penalties. That is public relations and a form of deception.) On the other hand, large numbers of people accused of apostasy can be killed in the context of jihad, where there is no time for examining details of individual cases. Abu Bakr’s war of apostasy was perhaps the first example of this.
RonaldB says
I don’t disagree with you.
However, just taking Hasan’s artlce at face value:
“Today, however, I’m filled not with awe but with disgust. Brunei has become the first country in Southeast Asia to impose capital punishment for “crimes” such as adultery and gay sex.
But under the new laws, those found guilty of gay sex can be stoned to death or whipped. Adulterers risk death by stoning too, while thieves face amputation of a right hand on their first offense and a left foot on their second. ”
it is obvious that Hasan is clearly criticizing the death penalty for gay sex, and not just the stoning. As to whether he is sincere, I have no informed opinion. I’ve commented on another thread that the Muslims align themselves, for now, with the cultural Marxists, who support every issue designed to destroy Western civilization: the conventions concerning male and female, the protection of children, the conventions of traditional marriage: everything. The Muslim jihadis align themselves with cultural Marxists, for now, to achieve the common goal of weakening the present social fabric.
Now, where Hasan is on this, I don’t know. II think it would be prudent to take your stance, and assume that a devout Muslim will twist the teachings and variances of Islam to suit the advancement of Islam. Hasan will never criticize Islam as such, but always claim sharia law has been misinterpreted.
The cultural Marxists are, I believe, willing to put Islamists in power, though the Islamists will turn on the cult-Marxists. They hate their culture just that much. Those gays who are not cultural Marxists will get quite a surprise when their defenders of the ilk of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib get into power.
winoceros says
In his second paragraph he starts with “But,” as if the deaths are understandable, with his disgust stemming from barbaric methods.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Allahu subhanahu wa ta’ala created brother Mehdi Hasan from five sacred ingredients: the slyness and slickness of brother Maajid Nawaz mixed with the intellect and refinement of brother Ali Dawah, all topped off with the showmanship of brother Zakir Naik. What brother Mehdi does lack, though, is the supreme arrogance of brother Muhammad Hijab. In fact, he’s quite a timid fellow, our brother Mehdi. He needs to make his untenable assertions in blistering succession so that his opponent cannot get a word in edgeways and when brother Mehdi eventually stops for an intake of breath, his opponent is left not knowing which of the brother’s erroneous assertions to respond to. By this point the well-entertained audience is clapping and laughing while brother Mehdi gets a chance to line up his next blistering assault on his opponent. It works and brother Mehdi comes out the firm favourite, except when it doesn’t…
Knowing no other tactic for both defending his indefensible Islam and concealing his obvious lack of arguments, our brother Mehdi sometimes gets stumped, such as when an opponent cuts him short before he can even get started, for instance when Irshad Manji called him out for his misbehaviour before he could misbehave, or when an opponent throws him a curve ball, such as when Richard Dawkins put him on the spot for his belief in flying horses (both instances, especially the latter, were priceless).
Mehdi Hasan and Maajid Nawaz are from the generation of Islamic propagandists that succeeded Tariq Ramadan. The tactics are very different from one generation to the next. Tariq Ramadan pulled the oh-so-hurt, ever-so-reasonable stunt until he got exposed (the stoning women to death thing and the different messages to infidels as opposed to Muslims thing, and not the rape thing — that came later when he was already done for). Mehdi and Maajid are the slick, dapper, fast-talking b.s.-ers that came after the saggy eyebrows Tariq. They’re already a spent force because there are too many articulate ex-Muslims and too many non-Muslims already know Islam very well. I’m not sure of this yet, but I suspect that Ilhan Omar represents the next generation. Pretty soon they’ll dispense with the pretence and be down to brute force. First on their list will be those who humiliated them, i.e., showed them up in debate. It will not be pretty.
They have to keep changing their tactics because their lies are always exposed. It’s very simple: the indefensible is indefensible, and Islam is indefensible. Truth stands, no matter what is thrown at the truth-teller.
RonaldB says
I really like your informed style. Try to include a couple of links when you summarize the styles and progression as you do here. I’m going to the article on Omar expressing joy at the assault on Ron Paul, and hopefully you’ll have a comment there.
Angemon says
What’s with Great Britain that keeps giving us this kind of snake oil peddlers?…
Rufolino says
Because people in Britain WANT to believe them. Anything, for their own comfort. The British have become docile donkeys taught to strain for a carrot. The blatant weakness of thought appals. Backbones have vanished from the British anatomy.
gravenimage says
The Mendacious Mehdi Hasan
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Does Mehdo Hasan really condemn the Muslim murder of gay people, or is he just upset that it makes Islam look bad?
winoceros says
Hugh, I think you mean “homophobe” in your last paragraph.
winoceros says
The reason American Muslims answered that survey question affirming gay marriage because they believe it is a wedge to legalization of plural marriage. How could a court say no without discriminating? Not because they love gays.
Richard says
Mehdi Hasan, tried to build up a profile in the U.K. as a left wing, moderate muslim, but the wheels came off after he was filmed describing non-muslims as people of low intellect, who live their lives as cattle.
That’s when Mehdi, decamped to the USA to spread his poison there.
Awfully sorry Robert.
Richard says
Mehdi Hasan, in action. Hard to believe that anybody would take this guy seriously after this…
https://youtu.be/-ooQmPbEFHk