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MS142392MS142392 Posts: 39
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Can we please have fewer covers on all legs of the upcoming tour? I buy Pearl Jam tickets to hear Pearl Jam songs. One or two covers is okay, but last few tours it’s been more like 5-7 covers per show — at the expense of classics like Dissident, Hail Hail, In Hiding, and so many more. Plus I’m looking forward to hearing the Dark Matter stuff too…
3/20/94--Ann Arbor, MI
6/14/98--Washington, DC
8/7/00--Atlanta, GA
4/28/03--Philadelphia, PA
10/3/05--Philadelphia, PA
6/19/08--Camden, NJ
10/31/09--Philadelphia, PA (viva la Spectrum)
10/21/13--Philadelphia, PA
4/29/16--Philadelphia, PA (a/k/a The Night They Played TEN)
9/14/22–Camden, NJ
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  • LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 8,488
    Ok
  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,072
    I'm with ya on that, I'd say one a night is pushing it!
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,433
    Not very hopeful for this after the end of the Zane interview. One is definitely plenty. 
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  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,072
    I know I kept hoping one of them was going to say force of nature 😀
  • BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 637
    They only did two at each of the Chicago shows last year. I thought they cut back on the covers that tour.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,934
    I always skip RITFW on bootlegs. They have so many songs that would be great closers. But they’re gonna play what they want. It is what it is. 
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,195
    I used to be all in on the covers but now with the shorter setlists and 12 records I don’t want many covers to take the spot of so many possibilities of PJ songs. If they were still playing 32 songs a night I would love to hear Comfortably Numb or some other cool covers but now with 25 songs max and a new album I just want Pearl Jam. 
  • WMAmoricanWMAmorican Posts: 247
    While it was a bummer the setlists got so much shorter the past couple years, in doing so they really seem to have cut back on covers more than anything, so not really sure what you're even talking about at this point...
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,147
    Agreed. No more
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,803
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    I like a cover or two, but not ones I have heard a million times before. I hope SO much that they retire RITFW!!!! A new surprising cover would be fun.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,889
    I'd say more Neil Young covers. But less RITFW. 
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  • marumarukomarumaruko Frankfurt / Calgary Posts: 205
    It could be way worse - Look at Incubus. 17 songs a night and 2 covers. I think 2-3 covers, among 25-26 songs are alright. At this point RITFW and Baba have become like Pearl Jam songs anyway. I consider them part of the programme as much as Yellow Ledbetter and Alive. 
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,379
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'd say more Neil Young covers. But less RITFW. 
    I think Jeff mentioned Down By the River in that interview. 
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,934
    GlowGirl said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'd say more Neil Young covers. But less RITFW. 
    I think Jeff mentioned Down By the River in that interview. 
    The first thing I think Mike mentioned Can't Keep and it was real exciting, then the rest of them talked about covers. Oh well.
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  • just_onejust_one Lisbon Posts: 2,087
    at this point i dont really consider Baba , RIAFW and Sonic Reducer as covers so they can play those.

    the rest please dont 
  • YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,539
    just_one said:
    at this point i dont really consider Baba , RIAFW and Sonic Reducer as covers so they can play those.

    the rest please dont 
    That’s what DMB fans say about Watchtower.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,810
    just_one said:
    at this point i dont really consider Baba , RIAFW and Sonic Reducer as covers so they can play those.
    I feel the same way. I'd throw Leaving Here in there too if we were having this conversation 20 years ago, but they've only played it six times in the past decade. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,175
    I'm fine never hearing Pink Floyd ever again. 

    I'm fine with Baba or Rockin' they've been doing them for so long they're staples like Black or GTF.
     
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,104
    I'm a fan of the 0 covers. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,175
    Are the Mirrorball songs considered covers?

  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 695
    Mirrorball, Temple, Love Bone or Into the Wild era EV I don’t really think of as covers. But that’s about it. So to me, I’m the Ocean or Setting Forth is fine, but Down By the River or Invincible would count as covers and I could kinda do without them. All that said, the band should play whatever makes them excited to perform so who am I to tell them what to skip?
  • wiscojamwiscojam Appleton Posts: 343
    5-7 covers per show?
  • YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,539
    Hoping they play Chloe at Fenway 
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,966
    just_one said:
    at this point i dont really consider Baba , RIAFW and Sonic Reducer as covers so they can play those.

    the rest please dont 
    I would add Crazy Mary to that list. And Chloe/Crown as well. And I could do without RITFW too but that at least gives me a head start on getting out of the venue before everyone else. 
  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,982
    kmcmanus said:
    Mirrorball, Temple, Love Bone or Into the Wild era EV I don’t really think of as covers. But that’s about it. So to me, I’m the Ocean or Setting Forth is fine, but Down By the River or Invincible would count as covers and I could kinda do without them. All that said, the band should play whatever makes them excited to perform so who am I to tell them what to skip?
    I feel the same way.  I like learning about different songs/bands from what PJ covers.  I get there isn't a lot of variety, but if they dig it, then good for them.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,846
    I’m fine with them playing whatever the hell
    they want. 
  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    They're increasing the number of songs in their studio catalog and reducing the total length of their concerts.  I agree, I'd rather them do their own songs rather than covers.  I'm a year or two older than the band members and totally understand the shorter sets.  I like mountain biking and even when trying to keep in shape, it's a lot harder to maintain all the stamina.  For me, RITFW, I feel it's a party on the stage and they're having fun, but I'm really not.  I'm not heading for the car on the hope there will be something afterwards.  As for the shorter sets, I hope it won't be 45% Ten, 45% Dark Matter, 10% smattering of other.  I hope for a lot of Dark Matter, and even in its entirety, but for the rest, an even distribution across the catalog.  On the Gigaton tour, I saw too heavy weight on Ten.  The stuff in-between is pretty damn good. 
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  • KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,396
    Veddernarian said:
    They're increasing the number of songs in their studio catalog and reducing the total length of their concerts.  I agree, I'd rather them do their own songs rather than covers.  I'm a year or two older than the band members and totally understand the shorter sets.  I like mountain biking and even when trying to keep in shape, it's a lot harder to maintain all the stamina.  For me, RITFW, I feel it's a party on the stage and they're having fun, but I'm really not.  I'm not heading for the car on the hope there will be something afterwards.  As for the shorter sets, I hope it won't be 45% Ten, 45% Dark Matter, 10% smattering of other.  I hope for a lot of Dark Matter, and even in its entirety, but for the rest, an even distribution across the catalog.  On the Gigaton tour, I saw too heavy weight on Ten.  The stuff in-between is pretty damn good. 
    Way too much ten for me 
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,230
    Covers are usually just in the encore. Let them have fun. They could just skip the Encore.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I can't say I've studied the setlist stats since they've gone to the shorter sets, but it seems the way they've shortened the sets has been to scale back on the covers immensely.

    The show I saw in Austin last tour had one (1). It was Baba, as the show closer. Everything else was an original, including Out of My Mind (!!!).
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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