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King of Hearts, I don't know whether you have this page on your watchlist. You've had something to do with both the items below; just bringing this to your attention. Schwede66 09:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wimbledon[edit]

• The Euro 2024 blurb should probably be above the tennis one: the final took place after both Wimbledon finals. Kingsif (talk) 04:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Nah. Same day. The one with the picture goes on top. When we want to feature the player of the game (I've protected an image), we can swap them over. Schwede66 04:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I did not see this when posting the blurb; I simply followed my intuitive understanding of blurb ordering. Now that I've reviewed WP:ITN/A again, I see that the instructions do not require a blurb that is newer by a few hours to be on top, but also I don't see anything requiring a blurb with an accompanying picture to be on top. So I think it's up to discretion. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 15:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA Euro and Copa America[edit]

In association football, UEFA Euro 2024 concludes with Spain defeating England in the final, and the Copa América concludes with Argentina defeating Colombia in the final.

I don’t think a combined blurb was the right decision for these two unrelated events, especially when we have a combined blurb for Wimbledon as a single event with multiple different tournaments. This is delusive.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, I objected to this as well and was overruled. They should really be separate blurbs. Black Kite (talk) 10:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I do acknowledge that there was some opposition to a combined blurb, but overall I found support for it to be stronger. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 15:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I quite like the combination, as someone who watched both finals. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The combination is reasonable. What's odd is that 2024 Copa América has the 2024 removed but UEFA Euro 2024 doesn't. We don't need the 2024 in either case as we know what year it is and the combined blurb is long. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Euro 2024' is the common name of the tournament, if anything that could drop UEFA but not the year. Modest Genius ^talk 18:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the combined blurb is strange. These were completely unrelated tournaments that were only coincidentally on the same day, not two categories of the same tournament (as at Wimbledon). I would prefer splitting them into two blurbs, though I see there was some support for the combination at the ITN/C nomination of the Copa America (but not the Euros). Either way, I don't think it's a big issue. Modest Genius ^talk 18:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're both still soccer games,having 2 "in association football" blurbs in the set would be horribly clunky.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 20:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1782 – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's opera Die Entführung aus dem Serail premiered in Vienna, after which Emperor Joseph II anecdotally remarked that it had "too many notes".

"Too many notes" is a mistranslation. I already noted this on the discussion page some time ago. Emperor Joseph said:

"Zu schön für unsere Ohren, und gewaltig viel Noten, lieber Mozart!".

You may translate this as:

Too beautiful for our ears, and an enormous number of notes, dear Mozart!

In the article it is explicitely stated: "Too many notes" is not a plausible translation of the German phrase "gewaltig viel Noten". Mautner, translating Niemetschek, renders this as "an extraordinary number of notes", while Branscombe translates it simply as "very many notes".

I don't understand why this distorted and misleading translation is still repeated on Wikipedias main page. --Furfur ^{⁂ Diskussion} 16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Too many notes" is the anecdote as it is reproduced in English. Whether it is a good translation or not is beyond Wikipedia's purview. Similarly, we use "Genghis Khan" despite it being based off a mistransliteration of the original name, and "Byzantine Empire" despite it being "originally prejudicial and inaccurate". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Main Page says: after which Emperor Joseph II anecdotally remarked that it had "too many notes". "Anecdotally" is doing a lot of work there when it's something acknowledged as likely counterfactual in the article proper. Plus the phrasing is awkward; it can read as being an anecdote from Joseph II instead of an anecdote about him. Maybe add something like "potentially apocryphal" or similar? Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 17:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pull Emperor Joseph was speaking German, not English and so the fact, as presented, is literally false. As the translation is disputed and we don't have space to give the reported original and explain the nuances, this should not appear on the main page. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Pull Even if there weren't any specific facts that contravened the phrasing, we shouldn't be posting anecdotes and rumours on ITN. Bremps... 23:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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